Hello Qv as you know i have been a member since this whole thing started and it s nice to know that there are people out there like you and myself and others included who do not support HOWard K Stern any more.As i watche the video on Geraldo i was so deeply disturb by Howards comments “Anna is your baby still alive” what the hell kind of question is that?I felt bad for Ford Shellys daughter begging Howard for help.I do not like ford shelly but i felt bad for his daughter.I visit some of the other boards about ANS and its funny they say nothing about the tape that was on Gearldo i guess its because Howard is such a stand up person yeah right.

I’m with you there Muggins, totally bizarre!

Holy Cow!

What a difference a year makes! GBT is looking all of his years plus and FS could be his brother! The guilt they both must be feeling about the pressure they put on ANS and the stress of keeping the lies du jour straight are taking a toll! And you know these appearances are their answers to inquest questions(without having to take oaths) because there is no way they will set a foot in the Bahamas while there are warrants out for them.

The only innocent in any of this is Dannielynn. She has nothing to hide or spin.

( hola QV! )

? QY, for heaven’s sake, what has happened to you? . You went after Howard so viciously It was clear to everyone that you seemed to have a personal axe to grind. You need to move on and live your live So get that bs outta here. You are not fair and you’re not balanced.
Shame on you

Canada (anonymous), in the United States we have the 1st Amendment. The right to free speech and free thought. What you need to do is not visit this site if what you read upsets you.

I’m sure that you have these websites, but just in case you don’t, they will be more to your liking.
rosespeaks.com
artharris.com

Enjoy….

QV

Wow, its back to the old look. I like this better.

I love it!! Looks like the old site.

wow, one i can sy qv is if the poster bove me doesnot like biased opnions,she-he, wont like either thr rose site or arts site. the stern cam,p ,.rose camp, arts camp are joined at the hip. so i no longer post or even read them anymore. i believe people should think fro them selves, and for anyone to write a story and put it out tghere, and have all the readers take it as gospel is very wrong. there is no black and white, there is always the gray area, where most will find the real truth. and it is not who i do or dont support, its what the truth is and the spins that howard and lin wood put on the picture deal, really made me stand up and take notice. those were lies. jnd both men knew it. What i am afraid of, is Howard is goung to screw up, now and give oquinn and vergie a toe in the door to have a gaurdian part in dannielynns estate.THat camp i do not support, none of them,, fshelly ben oquinn, vergie rita donna mark jackie hatten don clark, the pi who lies a lot. there is no support for them here i am quite sure. i support the cause of Dannielynn, and Larry to keep her away from the trash out of texas. vergie got her hands on dannie one time, and i hope that never happens again.

i re read and the post above, and in retrospect i think he -she would like the other 2 sites. they are biased in the right direction for the poster above. Poor Howard, so he hurts so do a lot of people when their loved one dies. he is no better no worse, he is not a saint, that has been proven, by some of his actions. , so i do not feel sorry for howard any more, Its time to be a BIG BOY, he does not need all these hard core howard lovers to yell scream and curse others out of the other blogs. That makes me wonder what kind of posters he attracts. i know some zre normal. but most are like wild dogs if u say anything that may hurt poor howard. they all better get a life. he does not know most of them exist.

well for me I don’t care if Howard knows I exist and realize he has a lot more to do then worry about what we are blogging. It is about what God has placed in my heart and it goes far beyond Howard. Actually, I am happy to report there are some Americans that do realize what has happen to our culture. Kid Rock just put out a great song that says it all called “Amen”. I can not speak for the other Howard supporter but for me I have good morals and high standards. I am not with out sin and realize none of us are. I also know how videos and pictures can be manipulated so I don’t trust what I see on Geraldo. He has tricked me one to many times, think that is why he works for Murdock. I have seen our media report segments out of context, edit our words, and I have seen them do this to a lot of ppl. For me this is more than Howard but I will say God placed in my heart sympathy for the man.

Why is it that some of us are wrong because we no longer support Howard Last time i checked It was a free country and i can make up my own damn mind thank you.And do you really think Howard or anybody in this saga really care what we think.My big problem was the video that Howard shot and its his voice saying “Anna is your baby still alive” I am six months pregnant and if my husband or the man That supposedly loved me said i would knock him out.That is not anything to say to any pregnant woman.Maybe the media does go overboard on things but when its Howards voice you hear saying the things he said that is just plain wrong.And the little nine year old girl was begging Howard to help her and he did nothin!!!!!

you don’t have to agree with me I understand your frustrations. For me I simply don’t believe Geraldo and even if the film was true I am not sure if it was in context. From what FS told Greta, Howard told his daughter the phone in the kitchen worked. I don’t think Howard understood children nor the situation but that is only an opinion, I get what you are saying I was mad at Howard once too. I did not hear him say what you are talking about but for me this is more about our media then Howard not acting perfect. I know you could find me speaking inappropriate too. I am not a perfect human being and I don’t think any of us are. Don’t get upset with me I am only chatting.

I am not getting upset its not just the clown video that made me change my mind about him lots of things that i have thought about i think everyone in this whole saga is shady in one way or another.Do not take offense if i seem angry i really am not an angry person.I guess i will blame it on the hormonesof being pregnant.

my daughter just had a baby so I understand about the hormones, she went thru a lot. Be careful after you deliver, she did to much and was rushed back to the hospital due to bleeding, she was close to death so take it serious.
Anyways, for me it is not about their behavior because, as I said, I am not a perfect person. This is about what The Lord has placed in my heart and the way I feel about Howard.

bluberry Says:…..but most are like wild dogs if u say anything that may hurt poor howard. they all better get a life.

Would you like it, if someone wrote such things about you? Here is a man, whose soul is broken, emotionally beaten, shamed and scorned; all with undue cause.
Until I started to follow this Anna/Howard story, I had no idea how easily people could turn to hate without probable cause. It’s really frightening.
I wonder if those “Howard haters” never think, they too, could find themselves caught in a public battle such as this one and be thrown to the lions. I doubt these kind of people can think that far ahead.
Proudly Canadian

None of us know what went on behind the scenes. People that have been supporters MOO seem to wear rose colored glasses when it comes to Stern.
It’s looking like the more that comes into the public eye, the worse he looks. And this clown video where Anna Nicole is clearly stoned in her 8th month of pregnancy and Stern is heard making production notes, does not bode well for him. Maybe not murder but neglect and exploitation could certainly be an accurate accusation.

I remember when the first part of the clown video came out, the little girl of Shellys was directed to a phone. But now that seemed to be after her repeated cries of help were ignored. Seemed the filming of a stoned and out of her head Anna Nicole was more important to Stern than a little girl that was begging..yes begging for help for Anna Nicole. But he just kept on filming, didn’t he? No wonder Shelly was so upset at Howard.

When she was in the hospital, during her pregnancy would have been a good time for some “intervention” and then when she was in the hospital with pneumonia. But no, Stern made sure that she was given her stash of drugs from the duffel bag. A duffel bag that may have carried the drugs that killed Daniel. A duffel bag that no matter how much Larry Birkhead complains about, he knew and also clearly did nothing about.

What about Daniel? What about Anna? I have seen many staunch Sternites actually bashing Anna and Daniel in their defense of Stern and thats sickening.

Sternie’s just don’t know. You people are blind almost to the point that it seems if you saw proof of not only neglect but abuse, you would not care. I hope if and when real facts come to light through court proceedings, you will allow yourselves to think with your own minds and allow that little deep down voice to tell you to wake up and really look at what happened to Anna Nicole and Daniel. Stern knew about her prescription drug use and it has been mentioned elsewhere that Howard stated that he carried the drug bag so that Anna would not take more than she was supposed to take. Looks like he wasn’t doing that in Florida. SHES DEAD!

I have heard this before. I think being called a “Sternie” is cute. Let me try to explain to you my position. I realize Howard is not a perfect person and could not save Anna. I have a brother who is dead because I could not save him either. I said many things before he past I wish I could take back. I did and did not do many things before he past I wish I could do over. I simply understand what happen to Howard and do not think he is evil. Howard tried to help Anna, more than a lot of ppl around her did. Most of them washed their hands of her. I washed my hands of my brother and I wish he would have had some one in his life that would have taken care of him at least he would not have died alone. We do the best we know how and when we know better, we do better. Howard did the best he knew how. He devoted his life to her what more could you ask of him? I am sorry for his sake he could not save Anna but do believe she is at peace. Something she never had here on earth thanks to all she had to overcome with that wonderful childhood of hers.

PS As far as FS his story changes to much for me to believe him, the facts about the video do too.

QV,
Thank You for putting your site back up. I am horrified by this picture of Daniel and Anna. I still have to watch the Clown video, but will do that later. I always wondered why Howard was always taking these videos. Was he really such a good friend to Anna? For an educated man to just be with this one woman and have no one else in his life doesn’t make sense to me. He was obsessed with her. When I think of it now is was very sick. Why would anyone take a picture like that. This poor woman just lost her child and he thinks to snap a picture. I hope the real truth is uncovered. Where were Daniel’s friends, this whole scenario is eery!
Linda

they took the videos to make money on Anna’s blog (video diaries). It was a way to make a living.
Lots of film get left on the floor because after filming it you realize not a good idea. Also they were in the tabloid news business.
I will leave you guys to your opinions, I have been on other sites and it gets to frustrating. I can only speak for myself and as far as Howard goes I realize he made a lot of mistakes but so do a lot of us. I only know the way I see it and it has to due with my life experiences and knowing a lot about this subject.
If you look for the bad in ppl you will find it. I choose to see the good in ppl. It is not my job to judge others.

Maryst
Dont go, I am on the fence too about Howard. QV has this site and has told me that I am welcome here even though she knew my support of Howard.
I try to look for the good in Howard, for the things we know about him with Anna and Daniel. He was around her for 12 years for a reason.
If Anna didnt want someone around she let it be known. She would say for Howard to get the F’ out but she always took him back.
Now on the other hand, im seeing things that have me concerned as far as he goes.I support Larry because he is Danilynnes father and Howard has.I KNOW that Anna would much ratehr Larry have his daughter than Virgie to be touching her.
The rest of the people I have written off. They are a bunch of liars.

from what I know about drug addiction and the ppl who are in the situation often do not realize how bad it is or what it is. To them it is normal, for Anna it wass all she knew and for Howard it is all he knew of Anna. I don’t think Howard realized exactly what he was dealing with. I know because I have lived it both as an addict and as an enabler. I get it. When I was an addict I did not understand what every one was so upset about the way I was acting because I thought I was fine and when I stopped and became an enabler I did not realize my friend could have died. I am older now with much more life experience and realize how serious it is and ppl die. I don’t know the answer to how to help a addict. I thought tough love was a good idea but it does not work on every one. All I know is Howard did try, I feel it in his heart.
There are ppl who say I look through “rose color glasses”, I wish. How could that be true I am in the minority so to be called a follower is hard to justify in my mind. All I can say to you is Love one another, take care of one another, let God do the judgment. When a man is drowning, lend him a helping hand don’t step on him and finally when you do try to help don’t expect anything in return, do it because it is God’s will, he wants us to help one another. Peace, Mary

Same to you Maryst. Peace. Don’t want to argue. Just debate.
But when Anna was drowning in the pool. Howard did not extend a hand as you were saying. He called for Moe. His words. I do not have a link but I am sure its available somewhere. I wonder what would have happened if Moe did not hear him.
I believe Anna contracted pneumonia from the incident.

I don’t want to debate any more, should have know better.
That is a horrible thing to say that Howard would have left Anna drown in the pool, absolutely horrible. I don’t go to TMZ and chat. I use to come here but it is to confrontational and does not make sense, frankly the arguments are insulting.

besides it does not matter what other do, if they don’t lend a hand does not mean you should not lend a hand

and now it is Howard’s fault Anna got pneumonia, why don’t we just blame Howard for every thing.
I am sure this site will do just find because it has joined the Stern haters and there are so many more of them

maryst ibelieve i know what your values are. I have seen your posts from when you wre on qvs and Janes. I also saw how you were hounded from qvs by the hard core, supporters. then after 58 post on Janes, where you tried to explain your your feelings. But no one would listen to you would they? You were supporting Larry and Howard ,as Howard was doing, and as and i was trying to do the same. so you found a safe haven at Roses. where ther is a rule about that. And i think it is fair, that anyone from all the blogs. you were allowed to state your feelings, with out being trashed on. And i would like the same, to happen on all the blogs. IF what everyone wants is the TRUTH. then we are all on the same side. I mean the WHOLE TRUTH

Blueberry, it is not about knowing the whole truth for me. I still believe ppl have the right to privacy. I understand Anna was in tabloid news and bought a lot of this on herself. I also think it has gotten out of hand with some so called trustworthy news networks reporting as if it were truth when they know what is up. Murdock is embarrassing.
It is not about all the mistakes Howard made with Anna nor all of her mistakes. For me it is about the way our society is treating a man who is clearly down. I am a very forgiving person, it is what God expects from me and judgment is not mine either. I am not saying the clown video was a good idea, I find it disturbing but I also know how things can be edited. I saw this exact same process on John Stewart as a joke, they can slow the recording down. I don’t know what they did with the video. I don’t trust FS or Gerldo. Let’s say the video was in context, what does it prove, Anna was using, we know she used. Howard said stupid things? I don’t look at Howard as a perfect person or an idol, I get he made mistakes. I am just trying to move forward and really pray for this little girl Anna left behind because I have always cared about her for some reason and my heart tells me Howard did too.

maryst, i care about the same thing you do. I know Howard loves that baby, and i know he loved loves anna. And when i talk about the truth, i do’nt necessacerily mean Howard. I am talikng about the texas bunch. ford shell gb thompson , everyone of those who are trying to get a part of what they are not entitled to, or to to help that bunch.Howard i am sorry to say, has to answer all of these accusations, . and he will i am sure.howard has rried to cover for anna, for a long time. He may have to let a little of that go, . He needs to ger clear of this, although i doubt it will bw this century, the way vergie and oquinn work. As far as any of the so called evidence that geraldo abd the rest have put out there, that is evidence that has been tampered with , how many times?? Ford Shelly and gbhompson, had the camers and personal computer, . they took it from the horizons. How long did they have to play around with all the picturs that have been put out there. the camera and the computer i believe were both left in the bahamss. so they had access to all of the personal photos. Those men have an agenda , the same as vergie. And when i say all the truth needs to get out there, .I do belive it has to, there is no privacy when these thingas are all brought out. Of cours howard did not want this, but it was taken out of his hands with the actios of FS and GT .

I see what you are saying
so true

Howard K Stern on Larry King Live:”She’s clearly playing around with a little girl and it is just edited it to make me look bad and to make Anna look bad. It’s horrible”.

Ford Shelly’s 9 year old daughter: “Howard, help her. Howard, seriously, help her…cut off the tape…”

Ford Shelly’s daughter:”I thinK we need the hospital. Howard, seriously please help.”

Howard K Stern on Larry King Live regarding photos:
“They are not supposed to be released to the media. We never would have. But somebody stole it and released it to the media in order to make her look bad”.

STERN: Anna took a lot of pictures around the house. And when you take a series of maybe 15 or 20 pictures, I don’t think there’s a person in the world who is not going to have one bad picture out of those series. And in this case, that’s what was released. And that’s what I don’t understand. And in terms of videos, Anna was releasing videos on her Web site. So a lot of things were videoed and these things were all stolen from the house and they were aired out of context.

“This footage is worth money”…..”Is your Baby still alive?.”…..”Is this a Mushroom Trip?”

Wow…amazing how both hks and lw could be so wrong in blaming big moe…we now know who (fs) has had that photo and more…and was the one who leaked it…do your math…fs as in FORD SHELLY shows up on geraldo…the airbrushed pic of poor daniel laying dead in his mothers arms is shown…then it is all over the web right after that dog and pony show they call Geraldo At Large…and not airbrushed…ford shelly is one sick son of a gbt!

For you that have followed this…every time ford shelly shows up on fox…something new seems to all of a sudden pop up video/photo wise…coincidence?…don’t think so…and to think HKS went on national tv and blame bog moe..or…listen again…mr lin wood…”i know for a fact”…well before you ambulance chaser mr wood accuse big moe and (as ford shelly says) “it’s on the tape”…of leaking that “photo”..you had better back it up…lets find the truth not the dollar signs…I am not knocking HKS but have to question what he did say on LKL and…did he try and hang Big Moe out to dry…remember HKS how big moe went to bat for you when he didnt have to…is that how you treat your friends and Annas friends?…remember Big Moe put his life on the line for Anna and you and he took great care in doing so…so why accuse Big Moe when we all now know it was Ford Shelly who leaked that very personal pic…oh yes…why did you take such a pic?…you said you did…”it’s on the tape”…why didn’t you just say “no anna no”…you are not to blame for these dispicable people making outragoeus allegations saying you killed Anna or Daniel..that is totally bogus…but dont be afraid to admit to the minor mistakes you did make or might have made…your making yourself out to be a choir boy and that’s just not good PR my friend.

Not to mention that Moe said that he was working for free. But why free when there was money for the boat? The boat is the Cracker but now changed I believe to The Anna Nicole.
So how to get proof that Moe did not steal that camera. Get Shelly to admit taking it?

QV
How could the troll have taken it was he in the room at the Hard rock?

Maybe Im confused but I thought thats where the camera was. OR was it already downloaded on the computer at Horizons?

Mish, Ill email you about that

Ahhhhhhhh!

please, please, please,
out of respect for Anna
take the clown video down, enough of it
It was shown on Murdock’s station for months, we all saw it.
This was once a mothers last wish, please take it down. If you want to say Howard bad so be it, disgrace Anna more knowing he was her best friend and she loved him. For the sake of Dannielynn and all of us who care about Anna please take it down, make it go away.

Mish,

I believe the pictures and the video were already downloaded to a computer. Which one, I don’t know and I don’t remember where I read that they were on both the camera’s and the computer but that makes sense so me as to why they are showing up from different sources.

As far as FS: HE has a nerve. Just because you are the supposed “landlord/property owner” does not give someone the right to trespass and steal personal property that belongs to an alleged “tenant/owner” of said property! FS should be arrested for trespassing and theft and distribution of stolen property.

I support Howard and will always until someone can show me different. I am sick of all of the one sided photo’s and tapes – all edited.
~K~

I for one am glad that Ford Shelly took the clown video and the picture of Daniel to show the world what was going on.

I do hope that Shelly intends to return anything valuable to Dannielynn but how can he do that when Larry has stated that anything that belongs to Dannielynn’s is his?

Why does Dannielynn only have 200K in her trust fund? Are there other trust funds for her? Why is the boat and 2nd house owned by a corporation owned by Wayne Munroe and Dion Smith?

In the US, its a conflict of interest to jointly OWN any assets belonging to a client. Who is Dannielynn’s attorney in the Bahamas? Does she have one? She needs one.

Dear QV,
Sure has taken too, long for what I came here in the beginning to learn.

Was Howard K. Stern responsible for Daniel’s death…and Anna’s death?

We still don’t know, or at least I don’t.

Yet, what I watched unfold on TV was just as wrong…

What mother wants her daughter posing naked in a magazine…

What man publishes magazines like that?

Some little girls have no mothers and some men have no morals.

I wish Billy…the father of Daniel would have enough guts to step up and say, “Hey, I’m a good guy and give me Dannielynn.”

‘That Kid’ was my son, and I once made love to Vickie…and too, many came at me, and now I’m really a man, and have a new wife or girlfriend that would make a loving mother and well, if you (the media) would just leave us alone…we will be ‘real parents’ she needs.

Guess I’m dreaming….

Yet, Billy just seems like the most normal human being among all the movie stars and photographers including Howard K. Stern and Larry Birkhead, and Hugh Hefner, and you know…

The rest.

I understand your point but my point is the video makes Anna look bad…it is disturbing.
I understand your position, and respect your right to have it but you once said you cared about Anna. I would not want my love ones to continuously see this video.
Tell me how you could trust or believe any thing this FS says and why you believe he has the right to take anything that was in Anna’s house? It was Anna’s and Howard’s house. Even if they were only tenants in a lease purchase situation, the landlord does not have the right to enter.

my mother in law takes pictures of her love ones in the casket, this picture of Anna and Daniel should not have been made public…who made it public, Howard didn’t.

I ‘vaguely’ remember why I came here in the beginning, and finding Art Harris and Jane Devin.

Oh, yes I think it was because of Howard’s thoughtfully prepared eulogy for Anna.

No psychopath IMHO, could write something so beautiful, and read it with so much emphasis…feeling!

So, far I’m still on Howard’s side, even if he is an Attorney, LOL.

Freida dear
You have to get over that (fill in word) of Attorneys.
They are not all bad there is bad in everyone. Bad Dr’s, bad ballplayers the list go on and there is good in some too.

LOL Im only kidding with ya!

Maybe Howard took that picture of Anna and Daniel’s last moment together to eventually prove she was real…not a “Great Big Beautiful Doll.”

Dear mish,
LOL, luv ya!!!

Here’s what I really believe…

There’s a whole lot of creative people working for/in Hollywood including Geraldo, and Greta, and Howard K. Stern.

Reality TV…is not real…this is all entertainment…even though some of it seems really, pretty sick, or perverse, just like reality really is, LOL.

And, I’m sure some of it is real…just not sure what…and I’m sure not believing everything I see or read.

However, there sure are a lot of really nice people commenting here. Some people really do care, and that’s reassuring, at least!

“When I see a person in peril, or in what I perceive to be dangerous circumstances, I will report it. I will extend myself in whatever way I personally can to aid the innocent, whether they are children or vulnerable adults. I will not close my eyes to their plights, or fail to hear their pleas for help. I will not let fear — of the unknown, or of getting involved — prevent me from taking a stand against abuse, neglect, or impending tragedy.”

Jane Devin wrote this ‘for us’ and it’s so important to read.

I’ve finally seen and read enough to know my husband was right all along, as usual.

HKS is a creep!!!

Amen to that Freida. She is asking the human race to stop ignoring what is going on around them. Help the little ones and the elderly and the ones who are sick of mind, body or spirit.

HKS carried a bag full of large quantities of prescription drugs. Thats what he did for Anna. I have heard no dispute about that. He admits it anyway.
And he is a creep in my opinion too.

QV

Dear QV,
Darn it, I just couldn’t believe it in the beginning.
I just wondered and searched and hoped that ‘he’ wasn’t a…
Well, I still hope that Dannielynn will be surrounded by ‘better’ people than Vickie and Daniel were.
This has all been a sad, yet enlightening journey.
Love,
Freida

Dear QV,
Did you read about the Sheik of Dubai…he could feed a country, yet he’s buying a great big…gas guzzling, monster flying machine.
And, when you ponder the total…long term cost…the Jet fuel and maintenance…
It just boggles the mind of what ‘a man’ does with ‘his’ money.
Guess I’m an idealist, LOL.

Dear QV,
HKS is no creepier than all the others, I guess.
Unless it is proven that he ‘really, truly’ did the unimaginable that ‘they’ accused him of…’they’ are no better than him, all he did was take pictures, and represent his client, and he was right…they were worth a lot of money…
Who were the Sponsors for Geraldo on FOX?
Who were the Sponsors for Larry King on the ‘Clinton News Network,’ LOL.
There’re all making money, and suing each other…this reminds me of a Rodeo, and a whole lotta bull.
Lord help me, I still like HKS.

Watching this ‘Democratic Debate’ sure is scary…really, I’m not laughing.
Why doesn’t everyone just admit it…the Middle East has the POWER=FUEL=OIL…we have food…as long as we receive the ‘fuel’ to produce it…or manufacture it…and feed ‘our’ machines and cars and the machines that produce cars, and steel…the major component in those twin towers that fell.

Just throw me a ‘pop tart,’ and be on your way.
People with lots of money can’t really relate.
…Oh, but they sure think they can, with all that money can buy…for instance, a Doctorate, LOL.
And, they wonder why Americans are fat.

I don’t know what to believe…LOL.

OH, YES I DO!

Yawn, think it’s way past my bedtime…

You, QV, have not got the credit you deserve, have you?
Well, I bet you do…front those 2 lovely daughters of yours.

Love Ya, and well, you know don’t you…I love everyone…or try to anyway.

Nite Nite and sweet dreams.