Dear Readers. Many of you will remember my recent statement concerning submission of any information that is true and factual relating to the Anna Nicole Smith story. Today, I have received an article and a photo from two ladies that go by the names of Kerry and Einstein. They attended the recent Bahamian Film Festival. They also accompanied Virgie Arthur to visit the graves of Anna Nicole and her son Daniel Wayne Smith. Their article, written by Einstein highlights their experience and observations at the grave site.
A Visit to the Grave Site of Anna Nicole Smith and Daniel Wayne Smith.
By Einstein and Kerry
The Cemetery :
The cemetery is located at the intersection of two fairly busy roads on the fringes of downtown Nassau. There is no wall or anything surrounding the actual cemetery. It is in an open field with few trees or other decorative foliage.
Parking consists of pulling over to the side of the road onto the shoulder at the entrance to the cemetery. There is a paved driveway that leads onto the cemetery grounds, but the driveway entrance was blocked by a thick rope that runs across it’s length.
In order to get inside the cemetery one must physically lift the rope into the air and duck under it.
Walking up the driveway, there are cemetery plots on either side in long rows. Each plot has a headstone (most are fairly simple). The majority also have flowers in vases at the individual grave sites. The cemetery is situated in an open field and the majority of the sites seem well cared for.
At the end of the driveway are more rows of graves, again with headstones and most with flowers or wreaths.
At the end of the driveway about two rows back and slightly off to the right is a small, gazebo-like structure, (I assume it is a family plot). Anna and Daniel’s graves can be found by using this structure as marker.
About two rows up from this gazebo like structure are their graves. There are rows of graves behind them, to the left and to the right and in front of them. Each of these graves has headstones and most are well-tended with flowers.
In the middle of all of this is a plain unadorned, piece of grassy earth. It is about the size of one grave here in the United States. There is nothing to indicate that anyone is buried there. No headstone, no cross, no flowers. There is not even a ground vase in which to place flowers (almost all the other graves have one of these). It is really disturbing because it is located in the middle of all these other marked and cared- for plots.
Our Experience:
Mrs. Arthur was obviously nervous about going to the graves with her brother (Anna’s Uncle and Daniel’s great-uncle). She was very quiet but determined. Her attorney who was present did not want to stop there because he kept telling her that she didn’t need another confrontation with security. Virgie said that every time she goes they attempt to stop her and have even threatened to call the police if she attempted to enter.
On one visit that she made by herself, a local cabdriver convinced the guards to let her quietly enter and lay flowers on the graves of her daughter and grandson.
As soon as we lifted the rope and started to enter we were approached by a security guard who was talking into either a telephone or a walkie talkie. She said stop, hold on and a group of male workers stopped their work to witness the confrontation. I told Mrs. Arthur to keep on walking and approached the security officer. She said that we “were not allowed to be there.” I asked her if she knew who that was. She answered “That’s Mrs. Arthur, Anna’s mother.” Then she asked me who the other people with Mrs. Arthur were. I did not reply. She then said, “Is that her father and her sister?” Instead of answering I asked her if she had children. She replied that she did. I then stated, well those are her children and she is going to pay her respects so go ahead and do whatever you are being paid to do, but she is going to those graves. I then turned and rejoined the party who were walking towards the gazebo.
Mrs. Arthur, stopped in middle of the graves and counted rows up from the gazebo saying, “here, here they are. You have to use that (she pointed) to find them.”
Once again the security guard approached me stating that she hoped I understood that she had to “call her supervisor.”
Mrs. Arthur and her brother then knelt on the ground and began digging in the dirt with their fingers trying to clear enough of a hole to place the flowers that they had brought with them. Kerry started crying and knelt in front of them trying to help. I stood between them and the security guard. They were finally able to place the flowers upright in Daniel’s grave but they could not penetrate the soil on top of Anna’s. The more they dug the more they cried. Finally Ms. Arthur’s brother said “Virgie, stop. It’ll be all right. Anna knows. Just lay them down.” She did. We all bowed our heads and Virgie and her brother held hands and prayed. Then Virgie kissed her two fingers and placed them on top of Daniel’s grave and said “Meemaw loves you Danny.” She then repeated the gestures saying on Anna’s grave, “I am here baby.”
Virgie brought the yellow flowers from Texas saying that she didn’t get to visit often and that she hoped these would stay awhile.
It was during this time (while they were digging in the ground with their hands) that the security guard again approached with her supervisor. I walked a few steps over to where they were approaching and asked if I could help them. The supervisor responded that she had to speak to Mrs. Arthur. I said that though I meant no disrespect and neither did anyone else, that Mrs. Arthur had a plane to catch and that she was very upset and that I didn’t think it was wise. The supervisor responded again that she “had to speak with her”. Angered, I pointed to where they were kneeling in the dirt and said, “Look at that! That’s an abomination. I wouldn’t bury my dogs like that.” She said that she had a job to do and it would only take a minute. I replied that the only thing anyone should be saying to Mrs. Arthur at this point was, “God Bless you and have a safe trip”.
When they were done praying they got up and I told them to just walk away placing myself between the three of them and the guards and their supervisor. The supervisor shouted out, “Mrs. Arthur.” Virgie stopped for a moment and turned. The supervisor then said, “God Bless you.” Virgie started crying even harder.
We returned to the cab and continued on to the airport. Afterwards Kerry and I got back into the same cab to return to our hotel. On the drive out of the airport the cab driver told us that he was ashamed and embarrassed about what had happened. He said that “the boy” should never have been buried there and that after 7 (?) years, his father could move him home. He also told us that that was “not a nice cemetery” that there were much better ones close by. He went one to say that as soon as we left, those flowers would be removed and thrown away because they were “being paid”. He offered to return with us to the cemetery to show us how quickly the flowers would be removed, but we told him no that some things were better left unknown. He kept apologizing to us for what happened there.
Opinion:
While Kerry and the others were extremely saddened by what transpired, I was more than a little angered. Words cannot describe how pathetic the graves are. It is one of those moments in which “the symbolic obviates itself”.
Although I hold no personal feelings about the “concept” of burial and the surrounding rituals involved (heck they can put me in a hefty bag and put me on the curb) I understand the significance that this holds in both Ms. Arthur and Howard’s mind. It is clear from public accounts that Anna Nicole Smith wanted to be “noticed” and “spot-lighted” in death as in life.
What ultimately happened to her mortal remains could not be any more opposed to her wishes. She has been left, untended, in an unmarked grave with no adornment and nothing to mark that she is there. While the ones responsible for her grave publicly emulate “love and concern”, her final resting place shows neither.
My thoughts upon viewing the circumstances of her final resting place were that each day she was left there was another day of degradation and humiliation. I believed that is the real message the Mr. Stern is sending. That it wasn’t enough to humiliate this woman in life, he has to continue the humiliation in death also. What I saw was not “love” it was “hatred”.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Stern does frequent those pathetic graves. I believe in my very soul that he does indeed go to them and stands on them and quietly says. “See Anna, you thought you would humiliate me, well look at where you are now dear.”
There can be no other explanation for what I saw. It was disturbing in a profoundly symbolic manner. The message was clear and I received it clearly. From God’s lips to my ears.
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Pollyne ,
Vergie want’s to be the money manager : ” That $ money $ is tainted i have no desire for that $ money $ . However , Larry is still young and all i asked Larry to do was to have someone on his side of the family like his mother or father and MYSELF be the overseers of her $ money .
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Pollyne, you are outright LYING. Why do you want to publish lies here? Virgie did not say AND MYSELF, she said it could be anybody on Anna’s side of the family, so there would be a representative from the paternal and the maternal sides to protect Danielynn’s Trust fund and estate. That is certainly not happening NOW, and it appears that the executor, Howard Stern, is using estate money to pay for his loose canon law suits. It appears that he and Larry are living off the baby’s estate and funds.
You need to stop slandering Anna’s mother, and you need to stop distorting the truth.
Mandy Says:
January 6th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Justice, it is criminal the way Howard has been treated all along. This whole mess was started by OQuin and Virgie accussing Howard without any proof. By now we all know why they so desperately want Howard out of the way.
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Mandy, since you addressed me personally, I will respond by saying what about how Daniel was treated, blocked from talking to his mother when he called, afraid of Howard, and with good reason evidently. Now Daniel is dead, so how was Daniel treated? Was Daniel protected and treated well? What about Anna? She was drugged during and after her pregnancy, and Howard could have gotten help for her addiction, but mainly he could have stopped being the cause of it, as Larry said. When she was trying to detox from drugs and was pregnant, Howard showed up with a bag of drugs and gave them to her to stop the detox. Was Anna treated right? Was it right for her to be allowed to suffer agony, to be incoherent and deathly ill without going to the hospital, and to lie dead or dying in a pile of filth? Was it OK to not call 911 for almost an hour? I don’t understand your comments. How has Stern been treated badly when he is living quite well now when before Anna’s and Daniel’s deaths he had to be supported by Anna, from her generosity. You are mistaken if you think Virgie and O’Quinn have anything to do with the attitude of the world.
All these people and places Howard is suing for saying what they think, do you think Virgie caused what they believe? If you watched talk shows you know well what attorney’s think of Howard. Donald Trump and Judge Judy said outright what they think of Howard, and did Virgie cause THAT? I notice Howard didn’t sue Donald Trump and Judge Judy. Why was that?
I see that you have a certain attitude in behalf of Howard, and although I don’t understand that I respect your view. At the same time try to understand that Anna and Daniel, and Virgie, deserve some compassion, since none of the three did anything wrong at all. Bashing Anna’s mother doesn’t make Howard look any better, believe me. And O’Quinn cannot be blamed for the things Howard has done that make him look guilty, such as blocking the Inquest into Daniel’s death. John O’Quinn is highly respected and has received many awards for his charitable donations and his support for the helpless.
Blind blame of others for the reputation Howard has does not make any sense to me. You asked, so that is what I think, and these are my opinions.
Mish, Who the heck are you to say who Virgie can and cannot bring to her own daughters grave site. Howard can bring who he wants. Howard has made a ton of $$ off ET and has no right as just the lawyer and executive to have a say! I heard Larry and Howard are on the outs. So good for Larry
Ivy Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Pollyne ,
Vergie want’s to be the money manager : ” That $ money $ is tainted i have no desire for that $ money $ . However , Larry is still young and all i asked Larry to do was to have someone on his side of the family like his mother or father and MYSELF be the overseers of her $ money $. Not where we could write checks or we could do anything with the $money $. But before she could do anything with the $ money $ or he could do anthing with the $ money $ , that, you know something big, you know , she wants a Porsche at 14, you know it would have to go through ME ! and i would say NO you are not gettng a Porsche.”
Sounds to me she’s talking about a lot of $$$$Money$$$$
Tired of Lies Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Pollyne ,
Vergie want’s to be the money manager : ” That $ money $ is tainted i have no desire for that $ money $ . However , Larry is still young and all i asked Larry to do was to have someone on his side of the family like his mother or father and MYSELF be the overseers of her $ money .
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Pollyne, you are outright LYING. Why do you want to publish lies here? Virgie did not say AND MYSELF, she said it could be anybody on Anna’s side of the family, so there would be a representative from the paternal and the maternal sides to protect Danielynn’s Trust fund and estate. That is certainly not happening NOW, and it appears that the executor, Howard Stern, is using estate money to pay for his loose canon law suits. It appears that he and Larry are living off the baby’s estate and funds.
You need to stop slandering Anna’s mother, and you need to stop distorting the truth.
This is posted to Tired of Lies…
The above post is not mine…I never said nothing about Vergie and Dollars…I read this Junk …but don’t put myself in the middle of this stuff…You need to pay more
ATENTION..to who and what you’re posting to…
My Post was to Justice…
and what I said was…Justice you are dead wrong!!! period…
Thank You Very Much…
Which my post to Justice…is no longer here I see…but that is what it was and said…
*Pollyne, if you read back, the site had a crash and my web host had to roll back to an earlier version. We lost lots of comments and I apologize for that but it was out of my control…QV
Justice.
OQuin did an excellent job, INDEED.
Biddy
Where do you see that I said she couldnt bring anyone? What I said was….
“I understand that Virgie is allowed and thats my point the people she brings along are not so that is why she runs into trouble”
Because its at the cemetary that ONLY Virgie, Howard and Larry allowed at the sites. So when you take someone who is not on the list that is where the trouble comes in.
Is that clear enough for you to understand?
Tired of Lies Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Blonde Ambition Page 201
Virgie suggested in court a trust be set up with several people overseeing the funds Danilynne might recieve at some point. Larrys parents and herself screening the trust, Larry declined.
So….. Either Rita is lying OR……you decide.
To me i dont think Larrys parents or Virgie need to be involved. Larry is a grown man who can and will take care of his child.
Mish, many of us wish Larry had been the person we thought he was when we supported him. You say he is a grown man. He doesn’t ACT like a grown man. He acts like a shallow, immature wanna be. He seems desperate for attenion, and is here and there trying to get on camera, in Los Vegas, when he said he wanted only to be with his daughter. He said she wasn’t for sale and blasted Stern for selling footage, then he jumped right in selling her himself. Can we really respect this?
Somebody NEEDS to protect that baby’s estate. It appears as though two grown men are living off Anna’s money and income from her estate. Why isn’t Larry protecting this child?
Also, I think the way Howard and Larry treated Anna’s mother was atrocious. I also found Larry’s fake remarks that Virgie could come and “bring cookies” were as disgusting as his fake face.
Justice
Oh well… Sounds like the words to the song OQuin and Virgie started writing in February 2007. Keep singing…. and keep adding your own verses. Do you know that the tabloids actually cater for naive feebleminded people like the Virgie worshippers?
Justice
Interesting that you would say: “Somebody NEEDS to protect that baby’s estate.”
That says it all. That is Virgie talk and that is what it is all about, THE BABY’S ESTATE. I would say if it was my grandchild, keep the money, keep the estate, just give me my grandchild. Oh well…I am wasting my time.. I know.
This is to Tired of Lies.
PLEASE:..Pay Attention…
before you jump down my throat…
Again.. Thank You
Below are my entire post of this thread..Plus the one to Justice..that is no longer here…
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Pollyne Says:
January 1st, 2008 at 6:30 am
Freda you’re the best…
You ‘ve been posting here since almost from the begining…
I can’t believe all these posters from TMZ and Topix are here trying to root you out…
Hold your ground sweetie…
I love your post …if only peopole would read between the lines in your post…and see what you’re really saying…but they don’t because they can’t get beyond their hate…MOO
Pollyne Says:
January 1st, 2008 at 6:31 am
OOPS that’s People
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Pollyne Says:
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:50 am
QV,EJ ,Freida ,Maryst, Vivian.Mish,and all the old posters…Please do not let the likes of the TMZers and the Topix take over this site with all the hate…it breaks my heart to see what is hapopening.
Lets put the love back in this site..and just agree to disagree…debating is good.
Scooly I don’t know you ….but do want you to know how very sorry I am about your Son…I to have lost lot’s of family members to Cancer…it’s never easy to except…
Love you all….
I apologize, Pollyne, I did address the post to you, and it was actually Ivy who made the untrue comment. Sorry.
Pollyne Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Ivy Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Pollyne ,
Vergie want’s to be the money manager : ” That $ money $ is tainted i have no desire for that $ money $ . However , Larry is still young and all i asked Larry to do was to have someone on his side of the family like his mother or father and MYSELF be the overseers of her $ money $. Not where we could write checks or we could do anything with the $money $. But before she could do anything with the $ money $ or he could do anthing with the $ money $ , that, you know something big, you know , she wants a Porsche at 14, you know it would have to go through ME ! and i would say NO you are not gettng a Porsche.”
Sounds to me she’s talking about a lot of $$$$Money$$$$
Tired of Lies Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Pollyne ,
Vergie want’s to be the money manager : ” That $ money $ is tainted i have no desire for that $ money $ . However , Larry is still young and all i asked Larry to do was to have someone on his side of the family like his mother or father and MYSELF be the overseers of her $ money .
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Pollyne, you are outright LYING. Why do you want to publish lies here? Virgie did not say AND MYSELF, she said it could be anybody on Anna’s side of the family, so there would be a representative from the paternal and the maternal sides to protect Danielynn’s Trust fund and estate. That is certainly not happening NOW, and it appears that the executor, Howard Stern, is using estate money to pay for his loose canon law suits. It appears that he and Larry are living off the baby’s estate and funds.
You need to stop slandering Anna’s mother, and you need to stop distorting the truth.
Pollyne , didn’t write it i did , i have to apologize to her as it seems i had posted her name by mistake , sorry for that.
Before anyone else wants to call me a liar you need to go to Fox News transcripts ,On The Record May 2,2007 with Greta Van Susteren , look it up.
……….and myself
Link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269821,00.html
Justice Says:
January 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
When did he say he only wanted to be with his daughter?
Are you talking before or after he took her home from the Bahamas?
I remember Larry making the comment of people with good intentions, I dont have the exact quote but I will get it.
As far as the pictures I think they all are guilty. I think they all have their own motives for doing so.
As far as Larry…..He needed to do that, otherwise he would have been hounded. He is after all a paparazzoooo isnt he?
If I remember correctly didnt Opri arrange the first deal with NBC?
Apology accepted….
Pollyne ,
Thank You , i can admit when i’m wrong i may be just one of a kind…..LOL
I want to know how anyone can respect a grandmother,who has never made a effort to send her granddaughter a birthday card,who,s only effort is to get control of the childs estate, putting yellow flowers on anna, grave is for VIRGIE,NOT ANNA,THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS,ANNA DID NOT LIKE TEXAS,SO WHY DO THAT,I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE FELT SO HURT FOR ANOTHER LIKE I DO ANNA,LOOKING FOR LOVE TILL THE DAY SHE DIED.GOD,HOW COULD VIRGIE HAD GONE ON TV,AND HURT ANNA SO.PLEASE LEAVE EVERYTHING I WROTE,NOT TAKE OUT WHAT YOU WANT,
the only law suits that dannie’s estate pays for are the ones that afe about that, no the peesonal, ones for howard. No one can spend a penny, with out the consent of the court. The probate cour is capable of over seeing every thing is done right, for adannie;s estate. Larry nor Howard will ever be able to live off dannie’s estate. untill she turns the age that Anna stated her money will be watch by the courts, any thing spent will have to have the ok of the court, Larry will get [perhaps] a sum yearly to support Dannie, but he has to show them at the end of the year where every penny went.
I don’t believe Virgie is trying to get control of the estate at all. I doubt if she thinks the child would see a card when she is not even allowed to see her own grandchild. I don’t criticize flowers on graves, and appreciate that they are there at all. Virgie was not responsible for Anna’s tragic loss of her son, or for Anna’s death. Anna was used and kept drugged, and her money was the object, but not by Virgie. Virgie never said Anna killed Daniel, she told Anna to be careful who was around her or she could be next.
I am too upset over the murder of the girl jogger in Georgia, and their finding her body, to continue to argue with outrageous comments. I will see you later.
The more I looked at that photograph, the more things I see.
Like for instance what’s that little black thing on Virgie’s back? And the arms just don’t look right.
I SPY…BINGO!!!
http://www.scholastic.com/ispy/
TO KERRY,UNLESS SOMEONE IS KISSING YOUR BUTT.YOU TAKE THEM OFF,WELL KERRY,DID VIRGIE GIVE ONE CENT FOR THE GRAVSITE OR FUNERAL.OF COURSE NOT,SO SHUT UP
I read OQ did a good job,news to me Virgie has got nothing she wanted,NOTHING,And Howard has been found to be clear of any wrong doing,so you can write all you want and pat each other, but it ends out with VIRGIE getting nothing she wanted and howard cleared,WHO CARES WHAT YOU WRITE
freida Says:
January 8th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
The more I looked at that photograph, the more things I see.
Like for instance what’s that little black thing on Virgie’s back? And the arms just don’t look right.
I SPY…BINGO!!!
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For heavens sake, that is the corner of Virgie’s purse.
If you look to the right you will see another person’s purse, also on the ground.
Vergie took Rita Cosby to the funeral instead of Donna Hogan. after Donna going all the way to the bahamason Vergies word. Vergie also took Rita to the gathering afterwards. which Rita was asked to leave. I wonder how much she got paid for that?? Also, Rita Cosby introduced Larry to Opri, . that is how Opri got the job with Larry. Opri was quite friendly with Vergie , in court , whispering in her ear. Opri got Larry hooked up with Vergie. Vergie brings Rita to the funeral. Opri goes to the funeral. Larry has not a clue about anything. . jump ahead, to Rita and her book, Vergie in New York with Rita, Larry is bad now cause HEgot out of that mess. This all sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Vivian, why would Virgie want to take Donna Hogan, who she and Anna barely even knew and who tried to make money by writing a peculiar book about Anna, to the funeral. I don’t get the conspiracy theory, which doesn’t make sense. You are writing too much into just casual things, and that people attended a funeral. It just means nothing. To think otherwise is too much of a stretch.
Larry hired Opri and didn’t want to pay her. Yes, they all went to the funeral. So what? Larry is no victim. He came out like a rose, and turned on his friends to take up with his enemy. That is what seems like a conspiracy!
To Kerry and Einstein, if you are so upset over the cemetery,send a contribution,in to the cemetery.bet that will not happen,because that is not your real reason for your article,the real reason is to stir trouble for Virgie,SHE WANTS ANNA REMOVED I CANNOT WAIT TILL THE inquest is over,and Virgie leaves with her head between her legs,THE bAHAMAS WILL NEVER LET VIRGIE AND FAMILY TAKE ANNA TO TEXAS,IF ANY OF YOU USED THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU,ANNA WAS NOT 5YEARS OLD .SHE WAS A GROWN WOMAN,I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE MADE PLANS FOR YOUR RESTING PLACE,AND I AM SURE YOU ALL ARE NOT GOING HOME TO MAMA.
Anonymous
“Vivian, why would Virgie want to take Donna Hogan, who she and Anna barely even knew”
Why would Virgie take that man and the two woman who didnt even know Anna?
Justice
“I doubt if she thinks the child would see a card when she is not even allowed to see her own grandchild.”
Thats not the point. I would send cards, post cards, emails I would call Larry all in a day is long. To get the point across that I CARE about my grandchild.
Freida
It looks like the heel of the mans shoe :)
Donna claims that Virgie called her the morning of the funeral and un invited her. You say that Donna barely knew Anna…..Rita didnt know Anna either, except for what one meeting that Rita claims.
I dont like Donna nad what she did after Anna’s death but you know what she was her half sister and belonged there more than Rita and Opri.
Opri was there because she wanted to control larry and Howards dealings. Did you notice the comforting strokes to Howards arms…..what was up with that, a little human side to the pariah(sp).
Each were given equal amounts of seats. Larry gave some to Howard for Anna’s friends(nothing wrong with that) why was Virgies side empty,
1. she didnt want to give up her seats for Anna’s friends.
2. She didnt invite her family and friends.
Beverly, Not trying to be a smart@ss here, I find your emotional out pours disturbing.
I think you should talk to someone. You are too far invested into this saga.
take a break and watch some TV.
It is not good to make it your life. I take time out and enjoy life. I think you should go to the Bahamas it was relaxing,you seem like you could use a nice vacation.It did wonders for me.
I came home and oraganized and try to limit my computer time to just a hour or so a day.,
Take a walk, blow off some steam. Really, does it matter to you or I what happens it is not our life is it? ET paid for the funeral and, Howard bought the plots with money from picures and ET segments, I think, I really do not know. I do not know them so you would have to ask Howard those questions? Really walk away for a while it does the blood pressure wonders.
Well Kerry , i think Beverly might be on to something. I find your statement quite odd , does it matter to you what happens it not your life either, you are just a blogger posting on the Internet ,you didn’t know Anna and you certainly don’t know Howard Stern .It seems your obsessed with people you don’t even know, blogging for months on how you were gonna get to the bottom of this case ,spending all your Christmas money on a “vacation” to the Bahamas and your conduct there was really something ,following Howard Stern around to see if he’s smoking ,barging into a cemetery to visit a woman’s grave you don’t know , what’s up with that ? and to top it all off coming back and posting a account of your trip all over the Internet.You are far too invested in these peoples lives .
Mish,
You have absolutely no idea whether Mrs. Arthur has indeed sent cards or presents. I don’t either so why post something that you just made up from thin air?
Kerry Says:
January 9th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Beverly, Not trying to be a smart@ss here, I find your emotional out pours disturbing.
I think you should talk to someone. You are too far invested into this saga.
take a break and watch some TV.
It is not good to make it your life. I take time out and enjoy life. I think you should go to the Bahamas it was relaxing,you seem like you could use a nice vacation.It did wonders for me.
I came home and oraganized and try to limit my computer time to just a hour or so a day.,
Take a walk, blow off some steam. Really, does it matter to you or I what happens it is not our life is it? ET paid for the funeral and, Howard bought the plots with money from picures and ET segments, I think, I really do not know. I do not know them so you would have to ask Howard those questions? Really walk away for a while it does the blood pressure wonders.
Kerry you have a lot of nerve telling someone else that they are far to invested in this saga. Are you not the one who “supposedly hopped a plane to the Bahamas?”
As for Vacation spots? They’re far more exotic places then the Bahamas! Trust me I know.
Jo Jo
NO I dont know if she does or does not, if you read my statement you will see I was addressing what justice said “I doubt if she thinks the child would see a card when she is not even allowed to see her own grandchild.”
I said “Thats not the point”
“I would send cards, post cards, emails I would call Larry all in a day is long. To get the point across that I CARE about my grandchild”
That is MO that is what I would do.So if I didnt think she would see it it would not stop me.
Oooops that was from me
Mish
TO kerry ,do not like the truth,you must have read my comments on art site,think of something on your own, or talk to the O IQ PEOPLE THAT TAKE YOUR CRAP.I ENJOY THE OCEAN YEAR ROUND,I HAVE ALSO MADE SEVERAL TRIPS TO HAWAII,YOU HAD TO GO TO THE BAHAMAS.WHO IS MORE INVESTED IN HOWARD THAN YOU.YOU ARE ANGRY SOMEONE KNOWS YOUR REAL REASON FOR YOUR COMMENTS,AND VIRGIE WILL NEVER GET ANNA IN TEXAS,TRY GOING SOMEWHERE BESIDE THE BAHAMAS IT WILL DO YOU GOOD
beverly Says:
January 10th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
TO kerry ,do not like the truth,you must have read my comments on art site,think of something on your own, or talk to the O IQ PEOPLE THAT TAKE YOUR CRAP.I ENJOY THE OCEAN YEAR ROUND,I HAVE ALSO MADE SEVERAL TRIPS TO HAWAII,YOU HAD TO GO TO THE BAHAMAS.WHO IS MORE INVESTED IN HOWARD THAN YOU.YOU ARE ANGRY SOMEONE KNOWS YOUR REAL REASON FOR YOUR COMMENTS,AND VIRGIE WILL NEVER GET ANNA IN TEXAS,TRY GOING SOMEWHERE BESIDE THE BAHAMAS IT WILL DO YOU GOOD
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Beverly,
You sure do like to scream in all caps, like you do on Art Harris’s site.
He lets you rant and rave over there and call people names, but he hardly ever lets anyone for VA post!
You seem to have alot of hate in your heart for Virgie and you take it out on bloggers here.
I know the name Beverly is a pretty common name and yours might not even be your real name. Im just asking this couldnt be you could it?
1. Anna and Danny will be exhumed upon Stern’s arrest for drug and insurance fraud and murder.
Posted at 3:19AM on Mar 3rd 2007 by Beverly
I have a deep CONTEMPT for Virgie,for a daughter to want the love of her mother,and virgie,spit in her face,time and time again,and she is still doing it.WHY?cannot virgie,except that ANNA did not want to be in Texas,she could have put danniel in Texas if she wanted ,She chose not to.I WOULD HAVE HAD SOME RESPECT FOR HER,if she did what she said she wanted to begin with,be a grandma,but that turned into OQ making a statement on tv,Virgie will take Dannielynn and Larry can visit.I am hoping they play that tape Virgie is taking Howard to court for,on that tape she said I CRYED FOR YOU.I worked in a methadone clinic for several years,and the one thing most of the young said when they came in I want my mom and dad to love me.I feel so alone.GOD DID NOT GIVE ME THE VIRTUE OF FORGIVENESS.
Beverly, you presume too much. You make too many deranged statements. You have the nerve saying Virgie spit in her daughter’s face when nothing could be farther from the truth. You know nothing. Virgie took her daughter to the Betty Ford Clinic. Anna did not WANT to go there again, and it was the drugs that Howard poured down her that kept her separated from her mother. You say you worked in a Methadone Clinic but you talk like you are taking Methadone. You sound deranged.
Also, you people who talk about sending cards and how you would do this and you would do that, you are nothing but talk. You don’t know what you would do if you were confronted with people like Howard and Larry, two heartless people who are without conscience and who are only after money, in my opinion, and maybe you will find out when you suffer heartbreaking experiences as Virgie Arthur has. From your cruel and mindless comments that is exactly what you deserve, and what goes around comes around, remember that.
Anne booked herself into the Betty Ford clinic. That is a well-known fact.
Anna’s mother was with her at the Betty Ford Clinic. Anna said that herself.
A lot of lies are posted here as “well known fact”. NOT.
Constant slander and distortions of the truth toward Anna’s mother are unworthy of you, and it is disappointing and tiresome that anybody could have so little compassion for a grieving mother and grandmother. People can have disagreements or even estrangement from their children, but surely there is nobody here who isn’t aware that love for a child and a grandchild is forever, and the pain of loss is indescrible. I hope none of you who are bashing Virgie Arthur will ever suffer the loss she has experienced. If you DO, you will remember your heartless and cruel comments.
How many years ago did Virgie go with her daughter to betty ford,did her mother love stop there,lady,i am not the one that went on tv and called my daughter a murderer.in your eyes that is fine I AM NOT THE ONE WHO TRIED TO TAKE A FATHERS CHILD FROM HIM,ALL IN THE NAME OF MARSHALL MONEY,VIRGIE HAD A CHANGE TO BE GRANDMA WHY ISN,T SHE.You are so smart.Virgie right now could be holding dannielynn,as a grandma.explain the need to have partical custody,larry has a mother also explain tormenting a young father,all you say is she took her to betty ford ,where was she in 12 years,and do not say,drugged up.because you are a liar.
And unless you seen Howard pour down drugs.you are deranged.
Anonymous Says:
January 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
“Beverly, you presume too much. You make too many deranged statements. It was the drugs that Howard poured down her (Anna) that kept her separated from her mother”.
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Anonymous, Don’t you think that YOU “presume too much” when you say……. “It was the drugs that Howard poured down her (Anna) that kept her separated from her mother”. Seems to me that Beverly has facts to back up her comments. What about you?
Sorry, I posted the above comments.
Anne
Anne, feel free not to back what i say up,I have given my opinion,I cannot stand by and read how Virgie is this poor Grandma.who is being picked on.PLEASE .Soon it will all be over,no matter what we write,and so far Virgie is comming up with 0,SHE HAS WON NOTHING.AND EVERONE CAN ACCUSE HOWARD OF WHAT THEY WANT,HE HAS BEEN CLEARED BY BAHAMAS AND FLORIDA POLICE,SO now all you sweethearts can PICK AWAY.
Beverly, you are clearly an insane person. Nothing you say makes sense. You are an ignorant person not to be able to even take in the truth. People with brains in their heads know that Virgie Arthur NEVER accused Anna of killing Daniel, she told her that Daniel was gone and if she wasn’t careful of who was around her she would be next. She warned Anna, and Anna WAS next, and if you can’t see that you are more stupid than I ever thought anybody could be.
Also, moron, Howard has not been cleared YET, and the Inquest that he blocked with Anna’s money is scheduled to continue, and why do you think he BLOCKED that Inquest into Daniel’s death? You idiot.
Her mother may have been with her at Betty Ford, that does not mean she booked her in. There is proof, just do a little research, easy to find.
Annonymous,it takes one to know one,to bad your brain cannot understand,o yes he has, BEEN CLEARED.like virgie would said,its only a formality.Is that all you can repeat,Virgie saying WATCH OUT WHO YOU HANG AROUND WITH, SHE ALSO SAID .DANNIEL DID NOT DO DRUGS,I QUESS THAT WAS WRONG .THREE IN THE ROOM,AND DANNIEL DID NOT OVERDOSE HIMSELF,SHE IS SAYING HOWARD OR ANNA ,DID SOMETHING.BOY YOU GOT BLINDERS ON.i sense you are upset O SAD TO BAD.
I’m not upset at all other than to regret that there are people so ignorant as you are who act like a fool and make no sense at all. Daniel did not do drugs, and yes, Anna and Howard were in the room, Anna did not kill Daniel and he didn’t kill himself. Get a grip, moron. Who does that leave?
I am embarraseed for you. You make a fool of yourself constantly posting these mindless statements.
Well,explain
Anonymous Says:
January 10th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
“Also, you people who talk about sending cards and how you would do this and you would do that, you are nothing but talk. You don’t know what you would do if you were confronted with people like Howard and Larry, two heartless people who are without conscience and who are only after money, in my opinion, and maybe you will find out when you suffer heartbreaking experiences as Virgie Arthur has. From your cruel and mindless comments that is exactly what you deserve, and what goes around comes around, remember that.”
I do know what I would do, I would send cards, postcards call and email everyday to let them know Im not going anywhere. I would do this knowing that someday it would come out that I did this and to let someone know I loved them. That NO one would keep me from them.
Did she do this with Daniel?
How about when he was an adult did she contact him?
Did she call him?
Dis she write?
Did she send him cards at Christmas or his Birthday?
Did she acknowledge his Graduation from school?
Did she acknowledge his acomplishments?
“what goes around comes around, remember that”
Yes it does and I think Virgie is feeling that now.
” I hope none of you who are bashing Virgie Arthur will ever suffer the loss she has experienced. If you DO, you will remember your heartless and cruel comments.”
The same could be said for Howard too, he lost someone he loved too.
Silly me I thought the inquest was to see how and the manner of Daniels death.
Not WHO killed him.
Daniel didnt do drugs?
Why was he hospitilized?
Yes, I am sure Virgie wrote.
I am sure she sent cards.
I’m sure she was in contact with him as much as possible. You have no idea what she did and how much she loved Daniel and Anna. She raised Daniel from the time he was an infant until he was seven years old. Stop trying to imagine what Virgie did or didn’t do. Virgie didn’t do anything wrong. She didn’t embezzle, she didn’t bribe, she didn’t traffick drugs, she hasn’t harmed anybody and she sure didn’t kill anybody. You hate Virgie for no reason whatsoever other than your misguided hatred.
Virgie lost her only daughter and her beloved Grandson. Oh,
yes, Howard really loved them, hahahaha.
Why bother The Manson Girls thought Charlie was a great prophet
So it goes
I said……..”Anonymous, Don’t you think that YOU “presume too much” when you say……. “It was the drugs that Howard poured down her (Anna) that kept her separated from her mother”. Seems to me that Beverly has facts to back up her comments. What about you”?
Beverly said……..”Anne, feel free not to back what i say up”
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Beverly, please accept my apology for mentioning you name in my post. I Did not mean to offend you. It will not happen again. Thanks. Anne
Anonymous, I am very offended about your above comment, saying “You talk like you’re on Methadone. You sound deranged.” I understand that you have an issue with Beverly, but to make a sweeping statement like that is wrong, and hurtful to people like me who have been on Methadone. There are already enough stereotypes out there. And I can tell you from years of being on it for pain relief and knowing many people on it for various things, including opiate addiction, if your baseing your comments on how Anna Nicole acted at times, it’s wrong. At those times, I would almost certainly say she was under the influence of something else. Perhaps in the addition of Methadone, but not Methadone alone. Methadone does NOT make you ‘high’, nor deranged. It is one of the most widely studied, yet least understood drugs out there. It is being prescribed more and more for people that have chronic pain, like myself, and for many who are dying.
Margie, I understand, and I didn’t mean to infer that there are not good and intelligent people who are on medication, but these people do not go off on deranged behavior and comments as Beverly did, which did invite the comments about her behavior, and her inappropriate comments. Her ongoing insults make her appear to be on drugs of some kind, and I only mentioned methadone because of her referring to it, and it makes it appear that she was a patient instead of working in the place. People are tired of her raving, which interferes with decent dialogue.
It was the lethal mix of drugs that killed Daniel, and the same mix killed Anna.
Think about the only two people in the world ANS hated and why she hated them, she loved those drugs more than she did her mom, her babys dad, and even her baby.
According to cemetery staff, Smith and Howard K. Stern allegedly ordered the placement of the stone. Splash says that “one can only speculate that the fake headstone was placed there to keep people from finding Daniel’s already unmarked grave.” Splash might have a point, Smith was reportedly enraged when her mom, Virgie Arthur and her ex-boyfriend, photographer Larry Birkhead allegedly visited the grave two weeks ago, on what would have been Daniel’s 21st birthday. that has been my contention all along. found this on ctv archives
. Howard was with Anna when she died, not Virgie.
2. Howard gave Anna drugs, not Virgie.
3. Virgie worked for a living, Howard did not.
4. Virgie wanted Anna off drugs, Howard had a duffle bag full of drugs.
5. Virgie did not film Anna on drugs and pregnant, Howard did.
6. Virgie was not in the room when Daniel died, Howard was.
7. Anna did not say “you did this” to Virgie, she said it to Howard.
8. Howard negotiated a million dollar deal with ET on the day of Anna’s death, Virgie did not.
9. The drugs that killed Anna were not in Virgie’s name, they were in Howard’s.
10. Virgie bought her own shoes, Howard did not.
11. Virgie pays her taxes, Howard does not.
I like Virgie a lot better than I like Howard. Tell me one good thing about Howard. If he truly loved Dannielynn, he would have kept her mother alive instead of going to buy a boat with her money (Anna’s) while she lay in her death bed.
Anna wanted Daniel buried in Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYi7_2qE6SQ&feature=related
judas Says:
January 13th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
. Howard was with Anna when she died, not Virgie.
2. Howard gave Anna drugs, not Virgie.
3. Virgie worked for a living, Howard did not.
4. Virgie wanted Anna off drugs, Howard had a duffle bag full of drugs.
5. Virgie did not film Anna on drugs and pregnant, Howard did.
6. Virgie was not in the room when Daniel died, Howard was.
7. Anna did not say “you did this” to Virgie, she said it to Howard.
8. Howard negotiated a million dollar deal with ET on the day of Anna’s death, Virgie did not.
9. The drugs that killed Anna were not in Virgie’s name, they were in Howard’s.
10. Virgie bought her own shoes, Howard did not.
11. Virgie pays her taxes, Howard does not.
I like Virgie a lot better than I like Howard. Tell me one good thing about Howard. If he truly loved Dannielynn, he would have kept her mother alive instead of going to buy a boat with her money (Anna’s) while she lay in her death bed.
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Well said, judas! Plaudits to you for the best post I have read on this site.
If you love them and care,
Never lose contact with your kids, or their’s.
No matter what they ever say or do, or don’t.
Accept the things you cannot change…and change the things you can…
Never lose contact.
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