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Howard K Stern Fires A Shot At Virgie Arthur and Daniel Smith Inquest Day Three

by QV on 12/12/2007

in Anna Nicole Smith, Daniel Smith, Howard K Stern, Virgie Arthur

Yesterday, coming out of the court house after day two of the inquest, Howard K Stern was questioned by Splash News.

Here in part is what they say.

Arthur’s camp have in the past suggested the reason Stern has legal representation, as he is not related to Daniel, is because he is worried about damaging details that may emerge about him. When asked about this on the way out, Stern questions Arthur’s presence and says he is an “interested party”. When asked if he is worried about details that may emerge, he first ignores the question and continues to walk away, before turning around to say it is a “very emotional process for me? much more than Virgie because Daniel was actually in my life”. He then adds “I’d appreciate it if you respect that”.

http://www.newspusher.com/posts/00050489.php?genre=1

The Associated Press does not have many details from day three of the inquest into the death of Daniel Smith. However, what is notable came from the Director of the Forensic Science Section of the Bahamian Police Force. Chief Superintendent Quinn McCartney said that the amount of methadone that was in Daniel Smiths system was enough to set off alarms. He said that he interpreted “bloody froth in his lungs” was a “clear sign of overdose.”

That differs from what was said by Dr Govinda Raju and an American doctor, Cyril Wecht who was hired by Daniel’s mother, Anna Nicole Smith to perform an independent autopsy. They both said that Daniel’s death occurred from the lethal combination of the drugs Zoloft, Lexapro and Methadone.

http://www.star-telegram.com/448/story/352462.html

Also read the Nassau Guardian article which reports that only one of the medications found in Daniels system was actually prescribed to him.

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{ 40 comments }

1 Mish December 12, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Did he miss? Oh Oh wait I have to finish reading huh? ;)

2 Mish December 12, 2007 at 2:40 PM

Ok, Darn I read the first sentence of the heading and …..you know my feelings on Virgie.
So….
If Daniel was taking medications including methadone,who prescribed it(the methadone)? Was he just handed the methadone without prescription? The Nassau Guardian article reports only one of the medications found in his system was actually prescribed to him.
For what reason was he taking it?
If he was taking it while in CA, could it be possible that he had taken some of his own and accidently drank his mothers drink that “Might” have had some in the drink? Resulting in the OD.

OT~ I want to extend my condolences to Larry, Dannilynne and their Family on the loss of Mr Birkhead. This time of year always makes it much harder. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

3 Anonymous December 12, 2007 at 5:49 PM

Daniel had metadone pills in his pocket. He came straight from the airport, o he must have gotten them, in Ca./ Also he had been taking methadone before he arrived in Ca,. IT has been reporrted that Daniel saw DR>E just before he went to the Bahamas. I doubt she would give him a prescription for anything. She probably had her samples, if she is the one taht gave them to him.

4 Anonymous December 12, 2007 at 5:52 PM

how did i get the anonymous Name???

5 People Please! December 12, 2007 at 5:57 PM

People, The boy died from 10 x’s the dose of Methadone from food or drink that Howard gave Daniel! Anna screamed that Howard killed her child in the hospital and at the funeral… What other evidence is necessary? Howard has legal representation because he is worried he is going to the horrible prison in the Bahamas…

6 freida December 12, 2007 at 6:44 PM

It doesn’t matter what Anna screamed.
I would have been screaming, too. In fact I may have accused everyone including God Himself.
Unless someone witnessed Howard doing something, I don’t see how anyone can prove anything, even if he did this evil thing that ‘The Media’ and ‘Their Guests’ made so many, believe.
And, if Daniel truly had 10x the dose, and they found traces in the food or drink, and no one saw who put it in that food or drink…
Who would you suspect?
Maybe Daniel drank out of the wrong cup…hummm.
Then maybe someone was really trying to ‘do in’ Howard…hmmm.
So, the inquest is just going to continue all the suffering.
And, probably make people wonder even more.

Unless Anonymous is supposed to be testifying at the inquest, and saw what went down…then they are probably under some kind of contempt…for commenting here.

Who would you suspect then, and what if they happen to live in SC or TX?

Sure is noisy here today, LOL.

7 freida December 12, 2007 at 6:59 PM

And, by the way, I’m starting to feel real bad for what Larry must be going through.
I believe Dannielynn ‘Hope’ must be a Godsend for him and many others.
Children can make you very happy, and keep you very occupied at living life in the ‘Present’ instead of dwelling on the past.

8 freida December 12, 2007 at 7:07 PM

This is for Larry, ‘Hope’ he shares…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57t5FW0M_d0

9 Syn December 12, 2007 at 8:59 PM

Um….People Please!….good luck with ever seeing that theory given any credence.

Have you not read the inquest news? There was no scream as you are representing it to be.

And HKS has legal representation because 1) he is a lawyer, 2) he represents Dannielynn’s interests and estated, 3) He was as close to “kin” to Anna and Daniel as one can be without sharing blood.

I’m not even a “Sternie.” I don’t pine for the man, and I think he was an enabler, and I really don’t have a lot of respect for how he chose to spend 11 years of his life….

but that doesn’t make him a killer. Or a suspect. At least not in the eyes of the law, even though people like you will surely cook up your wild theories for years to come.

10 freida December 12, 2007 at 9:18 PM

Dear Syn,
Which theory?
I have at least, hmmm, let me see now, one, two, three, four, five…
lost count, six I think, LOL.
No, seven, yes seven.
Oh, wait a minute I just thought of eight…give me another minute…and bet up could think of a few more.
Yep, sure did.
Well, maybe the inquest will awaken some sleeping or forgotten emotions in Virgie, or someone else…or something…the Lord works in mysterious ways, ‘they say!’

11 Sittin on the fence December 12, 2007 at 10:01 PM

“Carolyn Nairn, a patient in room 202 on the day of Smith’s death, testified that she heard a lot of commotion coming from the room next door to her – Anna Nicole’s room 201 – and a female crying and screaming, “My baby boy.”

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/290495833053558.php

Syn, those words are all that are being reported in the news so far. Unless we hear from someone that attended the inquest that can be trusted to report accurately, we will not know ALL the words that Anna Nicole screamed!

12 Groovy December 13, 2007 at 12:37 AM

I wish we could get transcripts of who said what and a complete accurate testimony instead of all these bits and pieces. It almost seems like a contradiction for every part of the testimony given between witnesses. It raises more questions than answers and more room for speculations. I was hoping to get more answers and instead scratching my head! I have seen written 26 pills in Daniels suitcase but then I thought he only had a backpack. If he did have a suitcase with pills how did he get thru the search at the airport? Then I saw it was sample pacs. The pills that were found at the hospital was methadone and a muscle relaxer.Forget about what happened with the pills at the hospital I am still at the airport figuring out luggage and what the 26 pills were!

13 Sittin on the fence December 13, 2007 at 12:47 AM

I feel the same way Groovy. These so called news reports are probably what went on during maybe five minutes of the proceedings.

Then if you go to spin-a-story, the bald truth. You get the Caribbean merry go round. Meaning MORE SPIN!

We want details!

14 Groovy December 13, 2007 at 1:00 AM

What is worse is we have to wait until the end of January to get more information when the inquest resumes. I am still looking to verify that because I haven’t seen an actual link but that is rumored. I just can’t believe they haven’t had a full week of testimony yet. This could have been finished already. The delays are just ridiculous. I would hope the jury is making notes because they aren’t going to remember the details of testimonies given. If this is true we will also have another month of spinning to listen to and I am dizzy as it is. I can only imagine what the next thing to be brought out is..lol

15 maryst December 13, 2007 at 1:34 AM

I truly do not understand, what spin has Art said? He is reporting the facts no speculations, no conspiracy theories, the mere facts, stand up in court kind. The other media is the one who spun this tale, where are there facts? They simply make suggestions, spin theories and most famously use guest lossers to get on their show and spin the tale all who clearly have motives. I wonder why are they spinning this tale against Howard. Yeah, Howard made plenty of mistakes but what did he do so horrible. Who among us lives this perfect life some are so willing to act like they do. Why is it so clear to me the way our media is yet lost on others? Why can I see so clearly the way the these talking heads get guest to spin the tale so they can not be held liable or they say it has been reported that using sources that are not credible and mostly why does this not alarm us as a society? Look what we do to ppl not just Howard we do it all the time. It has gotten to the point we can not rely on our media to tell us the truth. It’s scary the way they get ppl to believe what they want us to believe, really scary.

16 Anonymous December 13, 2007 at 4:26 AM

methadone builds up in the body, as many meds do. Daniel did not have to take a lot at one tme if he was using it as a sleeping aid. I don’t know of Anna ever having methadone in the pill form, hers was liquid form. SO evidently Daniel took his own meds with him when he went to the Bahamas.

17 Syn December 13, 2007 at 5:49 AM

Maryst,

here’s spin for you:

Bald Truth Exclusive: Daniel & Methadone! Medical Records Exclude Virgie as “Family”

1. A medical record doesn’t EXCLUDE someone from family.

2. MOST people don’t put their family tree on their medical records, just their immediate next of kin.

For a journalist to use that kind of misleading headline is spin, spin, spin. Vergie’s the bad guy, we all have our reasons to think so, but C’mon….seriously….this was TOTALLY SPIN CITY!

18 freida December 13, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Syn,
I totally disagree with you, and I think it hurts.
Daniel had so few to depend upon, and Grandma had been totally ‘excluded’ from his life for more than a decade.
How hard did she try to be a part of his life?
Probably as hard as she is trying now, after his death.
But, it’s too, late.
She, unfortunately did not try hard enough then…and then was then…and now is now.
So, now in order to deal with the past, she probably needs someone like Dr. Kris…instead of O’Quinn.
I’m still not giving up ‘Hope’ on the likes of her…if you get my drift.
Love Always,
Freida

P.S. Maybe Mother Virgie could get a ghost ‘Arthur’ like a Jane Devin to help her…journal the past.

19 freida December 13, 2007 at 1:00 PM

cheaper than college, too

i might add

20 freida December 13, 2007 at 2:33 PM

This world wide web is enough to depress anyone…

Who owns the web?

Well at least Gates seems to be a real do-gooder guy…

Yet, Henceforth, that brings on the sharks, scorpions, and black widow spiders.

Everyone trying to make easy money, and it’s not really the money, it’s what ‘it’ buys…that easy lifestyle…where you don’t need to apply yourself…your brain or or your body, LOL.

Does anyone ever watch those people that pick up their garbage every week?

Watch how hard…they really work…most of us don’t.

Oh, and by the way, most of those ‘garbage collectors’ as they’re called are Americans, legal citizens…they get benefits that they won’t live to see because all their hard work over time kills them before they get to collect.

And what about those field workers, growing crops so we can eat…

And to justify this we say, they can get a better education…

A better education to learn how to ‘use’ them, those that work and toil and suffer for a living…

Well that’s really what it boils down to.

Too many cooks in the kitchen, too many chiefs and not enough Indians…

Do you work or are you a slave?

Do you earn a living?

Do you rely on the government?

Heck the government is ‘A Power’ they are not public servants, LOL.

They serve no one except for themselves, that’s why I vote Republican…

All those tax dollars mostly go to supporting them.

21 freida December 13, 2007 at 4:26 PM

Howard is asking for respect.

Seems that request is ignored, so completely these days.

Maybe he should have been indignant, and just told them to get out of his face and get on with their own lives and stop making money off him.

22 freida December 13, 2007 at 4:34 PM

Yet, he made his living off the very same thing, I guess.

Where there’s a will there’s a way…and, seems to me he did it the right way…always letting Anna lead the way.

Anyway, I should have gone away a long time ago, I guess.

And, God willing, I’ll be able to sleep…

“It’s Been A Hard Day’s Night”

We all know about those bugs, even the young one’s.

23 maryst December 13, 2007 at 4:34 PM

Syn, in regards to VA and her behavior after the death of her grand son, IMO it is callous, much like she seems to be.
As far as the spin in our media, you seem to have a bone to pick with Art so I don’t think I should get involved with it. It is all about perception isn’t it and what his words mean to you. My point is totally different than yours.
In regards to the medical record I think you read Art’s point different than most of us read it.

24 Anonymous December 13, 2007 at 9:47 PM

maryst maryst. I did not see Arts name mentioned, when Groovy mentioned spin.By all means they are others out there that will really try to put a spin on everything, I Don”t believe Art has to. The truth will come out in the inquest, no matter what is being said. Howard is not guilty of Daniel’s death , he has the truth going for him. SO stop being on the defensive so much. ITs not fun to debate you when you want to fight, I for one like the debates, but not when the person, has such a chip on their shoulder as you do.You come here dis-liking the owner so much, I can’t understand what motivates you to do thi to your sel. What ever you headr or think you may know, I look at this blog and see amostly Fence Sitters. AND that is the best thing to be, when no one knows all the facts. WHEN All the truth gets out, that is when many will just go away, becuse ther will be nothing more they can say to try and hurt Howard, But I truly all of those persons are with the OQuinn and Vergie camp. The posters I see here are like a giant jury, GET the truth out WHERE EVER it may lead. Then Lets deal with it. relax Maryst.

25 Syn December 13, 2007 at 11:57 PM

No Maryst, I don’t read differently than anyone else, really. I just read a headline line

“Medical Records exclude Arthur as family” and I think whoa– wait just one dang minute. Since when does a medical record exclude anyone as family?

I was in the ER a few weeks ago, and filled out my middle daughter’s name as a contact because we both live in the same state.

I didn’t list my oldest daughter, my oldest son, my youngest son, my grandkids, my mom, my aunts, uncles or cousins……

So…..? Would that mean that the medical records (being the powerful things they are) EXCLUDED all of them from being my family?

No, I don’t think so.

And no, I have no big issue w/ Harris. He’s okay. His forum sucks, but that’s another story. He DOES spin though, but so do all or most entertainment reporters. He’s way better than many, but not as good as some. I just don’t worship him the way Stern’s biggest fans do.

Okay with you?

26 Groovy December 14, 2007 at 12:18 AM

Thanks anonymous for clarifying what I had previously posted. Maryst by no means was I implying Art if I was referring to him I would have said his name. I mentioned spin as in what little facts we know will in turned be used to credit or discredit a fabricated theory and cause rumors to run rampant for any interested persons involved. I am tired of seeing made up garbage just to sway people away from the real true facts. The amount of speculation has been overdone and with the inquest we can hear people testify to the truth as they saw it. All I want is the facts not someones interpertation of it.

27 Anonymous December 14, 2007 at 2:08 AM

yea yea good honest unbiased post Groovy. That is what we all should want., No nit picking, no ignoring things we may not want to hear,the only persons we should have issues with is the texas side , and of the lies they have told that are a fact.but I don’t see them here, I see some that are hurt and angry and will say anything to the pro howard people, because of the way they are treated on other blogs. and are nor ablr to post their own point of view, with out getting ganged up on. Maryst, has to know THAT feeling.I wa sreading the poist at Arts, and some of the posters were already warning the posters there, about the 2 blogs that were closing, an tellng them to beware of those posters from there. Well most of the displaced posters, are far nicer than most of them on Arts. And they found a nice place that welcomed theM. I have noticed the numbers at Arts, have dwindled , of the Howard, wanna be lovers. Maybe it will get back to normal one day, and everyone have a little more classin their posts

28 freida December 14, 2007 at 12:12 PM

By the way, I was wondering what ever happened to Vivian…she was Groovy, I think…or maybe anonymous…does ‘Jane (Doe) Devin ever read here anymore?
If she did…she could be the Phantom or the Lone Ranger or The Phenomenon…or simply Doe (The Mature Female).

* Freida, they are still around. Good people for sure :-) and great friends.

29 shawn December 14, 2007 at 11:53 PM

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/2265/index.html

scroll past ANNA’S pictures. and there are pics of Al Marino

*Thanks for the link Shawn. I wonder if we will ever hear from him? QV

30 maryst December 15, 2007 at 12:20 AM

is syn groovy too? Don’t worry, I am relaxed, just posting…no big deal. Putting my opinion on the board isn’t that what posting is?

31 Groovy December 15, 2007 at 1:18 AM

No Maryst we are 2 different people..lol..And your opinion on the board is posting. I like to see all opinions from all sides because it gives me a chance to see things from a different perspective that I might not have thought of. If we all thought the same thing things would be way too dull and boring. I am glad you are relaxed.lol.We should all be more relaxed.

32 Jill Western Australia December 15, 2007 at 3:59 AM

It says a lot about airport security, I assume that taking Methodone out of the USA is not allowed? Find out which drug was prescribed legally AND where the others came from! Sadly the “track record” of ANS shows that she was surrounded by drugs…neither she nor HK$ kept them locked away RESPONSIBLY! DO HAIR TESTS ON DANIEL, ANS & HK$…the time lines will provide ALMOST all the answers. {Oops I almost forgot the inquest for Daniel is in the Bahamas…”shades” of Aruba????}
Merry Christmas from Western Australia

33 freida December 15, 2007 at 6:28 AM

Why do people take drugs?
Why should people take drugs?

Drugs are a good thing, maybe the best of things…

That’s why we keep fighting all these wars…because a select few want to own and control them.

It’s now about oil, LOL.

34 vivian December 15, 2007 at 10:49 AM

Maryst, I am here when i want to be. no I am not groovey. Are you Lucky? that person tells me who I am where ever i post. I am not annomoyous, i am me. But i get tired of having to hear the same ol same ol. so i do have my own little blog with posters. BUT it is private, and that is where I stay , most of the time. Qv was always so good to you, It was the posters that were not nice, and so i just don’t like to read your post attacking qv, when it is un called for. Now back to my own litte nest

35 skinhorse December 15, 2007 at 11:06 AM

Dear Vivian,
I still think you are Groovy, anyway…LOL.

Who’s Who?

I miss that family of owls that come and hoot it up in my neighborhood.

Wish we were as strong as that family.

Love.

Gee, I wonder, how I wonder, and I’m amazed….

I will always wonder…what if?

What if I had been stronger, and wiser, and better educated…and what if I become better educated freely…

Just because I want to know more?

36 Groovy December 15, 2007 at 6:06 PM

I really have to laugh because I didn’t think that me and Vivian sounded the same at all. Vivian is a supporter of Howards and I am not a supporter of anyone. I just find it amusing that there is a confusion thinking we are one in the same! Honestly we are 2 different posters. lol. And I am not Syn either btw..lol..I am me just looking for the truth with an unbiased way of looking for it. Somehow I find it a lot easier to view things when there is no vested interest in any one person. I don’t know of any other way of clarifying who we are and they we are all different people but y’all are entitled to your opinions but the fact is we are separate people. I got a chuckle out of this anyways! :)

37 vivian December 15, 2007 at 9:11 PM

and be nice to qv if she should post.

38 freida December 18, 2007 at 1:07 PM

I was just curious.
I like reading different points of view…instead of myself all the time, LOL.
I really love coming here, and most of the time I’m just ‘full of it,’ if you know what I mean.
In person, none of you would dislike me, I’m pretty sure of that.
This is really my altar-ego (sp?) typing my thoughts here all the time.
I’m not assertive, never have been, and I’m really as quiet as a mouse.

39 Mish December 24, 2007 at 2:46 AM

Freida, reading yourself is good. As long as you dont answere yourself.
Having an alter ego is too as long as you dont answere yourself.

40 beverly January 5, 2008 at 11:43 PM

You know,i am sick to death of geraldo showing the clown tape,i find ford shelly daughter to be a liar,if Howard gave Anna any drugs,WHY would he have to ask if it was a mushroom trip,he would already know.and Anna had every right to take pain meds,FORD SHELLY ALSO IS A LIAR AND A CROOK,OTHERWISE HE WOULD BE AT THE INQUEST,ON TV,GERALDO SHOW HE SAID HE WAS GOING,EVERYONE IS STILL WAITING,AND IF HE GOT Anna,s things honestly, there would be no problem going to the bahamas

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