In a Memorandum and Order drafted by Judge D.J. Chin, the presiding judge over Howard K. Stern vs Rita Cosby and Hatchette Book Group, Judge Chin admonishes Howard K Stern attorney Lin Wood for “leaking” the Rita Cosby deposition to artharris.com.
Howard K Stern was granted a deposition with Rita Cosby concerning his defamation lawsuit against her for the publication, Blonde Ambition. Rita through her attorneys filed an “instant application” that her deposition be sealed. Attorney McNamara cited her reasoning due to the “circus-like atmosphere in this case consistent with other cases that Mr. Wood has brought”.. That request was being considered by Judge Chin.
In the meantime, Attorney Wood agreed to not release “the written stenographic transcript of the deposition until Judge Chin rules on Defendant’s motion, if filed”.
Lin Wood had filed an emergency discovery motion in Texas, “in connection with a deposition of a witness to show that she had provided Ms. Cosby with information. The pages that were filed related directly to that witness only”. With his motion, he attached the 17 page rough draft of the Rita Cosby deposition.
Woods substantiation for giving the 17 page rough draft of the deposition to Harris was that he filed it in the Texas case.
Judge Chin writes, “In view of all the circumstances, and in light of the representations made to the Court, I am troubled by Mr. Wood’s providing of the deposition excerpts to Harris — even assuming the excerpts were a matter of public record. Mr. Wood’s assertion that he did not “leak” the documents to Harris is debatable, and at a minimum he is parsing his words too finely. Even if he did not “leak” the documents, he released them to Harris. Even if the documents were a matter of public record, they were part of a 245 page document filed in Texas in connection with an emergency discovery motion, for a lawsuit in Florida to which Cosby is not a party, and it is highly unlikely that Harris would have known of their existence or availability absent some communication with Mr. Wood or his office”.
Judge Chin writes of additional instances that Wood agreed not to release the deposition even though he already had done so.
Judge Chin’s admonishment is here for you to read in full. The Judge issued the requested protective order adding that the deposition may not even be filed in any court without express permission.
Stern_V_Cosby_protective_order_granted.pdf
Stern_V_Cosby_protective_order_LinWood_slap.pdf
Stern_V_Cosby_protective_order_LinWood_slap1.pdf
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Are they going to do anything to Wood for releasing this information. Or just this papaer
Has anyone ever told Art Harris that loose lips sink ships? Does he just want to make people happy with his moronic posts?
OMG, I’m laughing my tail feathers off! I will most definitely be in Atlanta on the 4th to try and harass Stern. Thanks for the chuckle!
I am not understnad the article with the documents provided. I read both documents, thanks QV but the article is not in the documents? Where is that part that you are talking about the Judge in the document getting mad at Woody or is there another document or what page that information is on? Thank you QV for letting us get a the GOOD STUFF of the other side!!!! Sorry I am confused, I just cant find it.
* Confused, you are correct. There is a document missing. Give me about 10 minutes to post it. Thanks very much! QV…..ok done…sorry for the confusion :-)
Thanks for posting this – appreciate it very much
thank you.
Thanks again QV for letting us read the documents. Love your site!!
Direct quote from Art Harris
“If you look at the markings on Vicedomine’s motion they recently posted, you will see they got it directly from the Texas law firm, NOT independently from the court filings as we do.”
This article is ALL about how Lin Wood GAVE Art Harris the deposition after he agreed with a Federal Judge not to. Art Harris did not get that from any “court filing”. What a liar!!!!!!!!!!!
big deal…poor wittle rita..she sure didnt have a problem ‘leaking’ her bogus info on a sex tape that didnt exist..and oquinn didnt have a problem using a stolen video in court..this means didly..I dont think Lin leaked it to art, I think art may have spoken to howard and asked what was going on and then grabbed the court docs or was checking the courts every few days for new filings.
Thank you QV. I wish this could have happened long ago.
This story has two sides as does everything in life. It’s nice to see someone is allowing readers the rest of the story.
Read the docs Susie. Wood admits giving it to Harris. Kind of hard to miss the truth when its slapping you in the face isn’t it?
if some of the posters would stop making excuses,for ANY of the players, and deal with the truth, Things would get done faster. I get so mad when some posters cannot stand to see”THEIR SIDE” in the wrong, WELL sh– happens and they are not right all the time. SO DEAL with it, It will all come out in the end, . get the crap out of the way, and deal with ONLY THE TRUTH> whether we like it or not. Thats my NEWS YEARS RESOLUTION>
Lin Wood provided the document to Art as a courtesy, in exchange for the positive coverage of his client. I don’t think the judge realizes how closely Art follows these cases and that he would’ve found the document within a short time after it was filed anyway. I don’t understand why that mattered so much. Now, having a problem with the filing of portions of the transcripts in other courts I can understand, but the judge didn’t seem concerned with this, so I’m kind of puzzled.
Besides, why would Rita go to all the trouble to hide her depo from the public? She kept saying how she was looking forward to the truth being revealed, so what’s the problem? I want to read all of the depos, including Howard’s, Rita’s, and O’Quinn’s. It’s the fair thing to do – get everything out in the open. Nobody should be able to hide.
Not all depo questions pertain to the case, some of the q&a’s will be excluded by the judge in the trial process, so there is an invasion of privacy when pre-trial docs are made available to the public.
The public has no guaranteed right to know things dug up during the discovery process. Only what is admitted at trial does the public have a guaranteed right to know. Rita has rights too, lest Stern supporters forget that.
Thanks for sharing that with us QV.
:)
Can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em, I guess?
Or beat ‘em at their own game, I’d rather think!!!
Just trying to stay optimistic.
LOL, that sure is hard to do, when everyone’s so darn depressed, or when you watch the news.
338. I notice Rose Speaks is trying to spin the judges ruling calling his Dec.17 Memo a CURE for his comments Dec. 12 adn 13 against Lin Wood
Let me run thru the doc*ments:
Doc*ment 30 is a memorandum decision dated 12/12 giving the judge’s reasons for granting the protective order and telling Cosby’s attorney to submit a protective order
Doc*ment 31 dated 12/13 is a memorandum and order in which the Wood story is laid out and the doc*ment ends stating that the deposition can not be attached to court doc*ments with out the court’s permission.
Doc*ment 32 dated 12/17 is the proposed protective order written by Cosby’s attorney with the word proposed crossed out. It has been accepted and signed by the judge. There is NO CURE at all. In this decision (written by Cosby’s attorney) the steps for attaching the deposition to any other court doc*ments is reworded to state that the parties must be notified and given a chance to have the deposition put under seal in any other court submissions.
Posted at 10:45AM on Dec 28th 2007 by counter to Rose Speaks
I never did ‘bookmark’ Rose Speaks…
Anyone gotta’ ‘link’…might be fun for me to go there and read, since I finished Drudge in a matter of seconds…’seconds’ really!!!
Wonder how much that Tiger really weighed and why those idiots teased her? Darn sad story!!!
* It’s rosespeaks.com….QV
I’m tired of counting.
Dear QV,
Wish you would number the comments, like Art does.
Actually I wish only ‘those that count’ were counted or posted in the tally.
I’ve noticed a few more grey hairs these days.
Glad Howard loves reading the law…or has others doing that for him…interns.
No wonder a ‘Law Degree’ doesn’t mean as much as it used to.
I mean really…if “The Law’ was never concrete in the first place, if ‘that mixture’ had limitations over time, it’s never as good as what ‘Mother Nature’ gave us…sand reinforced with steel…
I ‘smell’ another lawsuit coming…the defamation of Art Harris.
Who, by the way, I’m pretty sure (because I’m petty and unimportant and not popular)…will, at the very least never grow hair on his head or wear his heart on his sleeve.
Not in public anyway.
I’m standing my ground (made of sands shifting)…
Art Harris is a good man, so is Howard K. Stern, and L.Wood.
Seems the earth is moving ‘neath my feet as I speak, or type, LOL.
Guess I better hang on…2008 is gonna’ be a whole lotta fun.
And especially for those that already make their beds a long time ago.
Investments, darn it, missed those great beg ships a long time ago when they were really sailing…
Kinda, like that Cracker!!!!
Lynn Wood may be a fine man, but i am still waiting for him to explain why he said that Moe, distributed and tried to sell photos, and he had PROOF. How could he have proof, Ford Shelley did all of that and said so on Geraldo. He need to explain himself and to beg Moes forgivemness. Maybe Me will sue him for saying that,
Vivian, I don’t think we would ever hear Lin Wood explain his reasons for saying that. He put himself in a hole for accusing Moe and saying he had proof. It almost seems like a way to ruin credibilty of someone who knew the truth of what was going on. A tactic that backfired when F. Shelley actually admitted that he did it. It didn’t seem like it was something that was expected. Moe should have a big apology given to him and it should be done publicly but I don’t see that happening. Wouldn’t it be nice if someone actually admitted they made a mistake and were wrong and apologized? Then again it might be too adult and the right thing to actually do.
When I saw Howard and Mr. Wood on Larry King, IMO Howard was hesitant to say any thing about Moe.
Myself, on the other hand, will. Moe is married to Taz and the things she said on Greta made me loss faith in Moe. He might be in a position which he can not win no matter what he does or maybe Taz sold something behind his back, I just don’t know. What I do know is Ford Shelly has consistently lied. He contradicts himself within the same show, can’t keep his tales straight that is how I tell a liar from a person who wants the truth to be told. I understand about perception but FS is an out and out bull sh…
I also want to state that if Lin Wood told Art Harris public information what is wrong with that? It is public not sealed so I don’t get this argument. IMO it would be his job and responsibility to let the public know. Wood is fighting for his client in the media just as they are and he is fighting a lot of tales, isn’t he?
Also when did FS tell Geraldo he sold the picture of Anna and her beloved son after he past? I only heard him speak of the clown video?
forgot to put my name on the above post I am never Anonymous
Here’s the problem with the spin on the little black blog. They just make stuff up to suit their case, kinda like AH did. So now it’s an attorney borrowing Leon’s computer? really? Where’s the PROOF of that?
That’s right, there is no proof of that. It just “fits” in with the grand “we see no wrong except when it comes to others” philosophy they all subscribe to.
Kind of like Art “I Sold My Soul” Harris writing about how this site is a pro-Virgie site, and his ASSumption of how where the court docs came from.
The funny thing is, I AM on Howard’s side when it comes to all the allegations against him. He WAS wronged, and people should have to PAY for that.
But that does not make EVERYTHING about Howard and those who surround him GOLDEN.
A deposition is NOT normally a matter of public record.
the information could have come from a witness…I am not talking about the little black blog…I want to know if this was public info as stated on this blog what is the argument?
Howard hired ppl to do a job, he can not be blamed if they made a mistake
O’Quinn’s machine is much bigger and every one in the profession know it
I don’t know about what AH said about this site or if he was even talking about this site. I only know what my heart feels.
Read the first document Mary. Wood agreed not to release any of the deposition pending the ruling. But he did anyway. The judge then proceedes to chew Woody a new orifice. Not something to be proud of.
Read Again:
…assuming the excerpts were a matter of public record. Mr. Wood’s assertion that he did not “leak” the documents to Harris is debatable, and at a minimum he is parsing his words too finely. Even if he did not “leak” the documents, he released them to Harris. Even if the documents were a matter of public record, they were part of a 245 page document filed in Texas in connection with an emergency discovery motion, for a lawsuit in Florida to which Cosby is not a party, and it is highly unlikely that Harris would have known of their existence or availability absent some communication with Mr. Wood or his office”.
Judge Chin writes of additional instances that Wood agreed not to release the deposition even though he already had done so.
(I hope I did the html right?)
Maryst, when people say they only “know” what their heart feels, are they saying that other things, like the facts or the naked truth, really don’t matter, or they can’t be bothered with them? Because that’s what it sounds like to me.
And who’s blaming Howard? I don’t see that here, so it sounds like some defensiveness for a man that several ladies have made their hero.
…I still have this site bookmarked…as
“A Mother’s Last Wishes.”
The Queen of Tabloids, seems to be the best she could do, that and the stuff she never got any credit for…like have a couple of kids, and being sick and painting, for instance, yet…I still wonder how good you gotta be to do that…and Virgie, bless her heart had a kid that practically blew his brains out…and guess she had a rupture in her own brain…
She’s lucky to be alive, and guess she still is…
Numb, though…hope so.
I’m feeling like a traitor or ‘The Devil’s Advocate.’
Didn’t much like her, but I really wasn’t a fan of Anna’s either…I was a fan of justice when they started calling Howard a murderer.
Seems that doesn’t matter anymore?
Or, guess I’ll wait and see if it does…
Everybody s…,
nevermind…I won’t or don’t have to say it.
I still like what and why I came here for almost a year ago.
And, guess what it doesn’t matter.
Happy New Year!!!!
Time for my nap.
Wood made a mistake, if that is true. I get chewed out at my job sometimes too but I am considered one of the best at what I do. No one is perfect we all make mistakes it is life and not all judges are right either. Personally I find most of them arrogant.
Some one else could have leaked the docs and set Wood up, he just does not seem to be that stupid.
When someone says they only “know” what their heart feels, are they saying they can’t be bothered with facts or the naked truth? Because that’s what it sounds like.
And who’s blaming Howard? I don’t see that here. Just defensiveness around a man so many ladies have turned into their hero.
OMG! Read Maryst. Read.
AS far as I am concerned Wood is fighting O’Quinn and he might have to get dirty because of his opponent but I still thing Wood is going to win against him because his opponent only knows how to fight one way.
what does it really prove? This is tabloid news and this is the way the game is played
I have not turned him into a hero, OMG that is ridiculous. I see him as a man with problems who has done some things that are wrong but I also see his fight and I would not want to have to be protecting Dannielynn from this monster of a grandmother
Oh, okay I get it Maryst. Anything goes as long as it’s your side, right? But any possible wrong-doing from the OTHER side is cause to stomp on their necks and call them names.
As long as we know the rules.
not defensiveness, really don’t care as much as you think.
When I say in my heart I mean what God placed in my heart, instinct, it has never failed me only when I don’t listen to it.
Good God, Maryst. Virgie is SO out of the picture! And any fight in regards to DL belongs to her DAD, not HOWARD!
not anything goes, that must be what you feel.
this is not about sides to me it is about protecting a little girl and making ppl pay for what they did to a man who was clearly down
believe me Howard is a big part of protecting DL.
you honestly VA is out of the picture, she will hunt that poor child until the day she dies.
Oh okay, Maryst, I’ll believe you rather than the pure facts of the case.
Seriously though, it’s weird how obsessed people are with turning Howard into a hero. He’s going to save the world, save Dannielynn, save Larry, put the bad guys in their place….
maybe he’ll come up with a plan for world peace, too.
Stop it, I-Am-Not-Surprised! You make too much sense!
Those who have built a good portion of their lives around “All things Howard” have built a pedestal for him, which they like to think they, and “the real investigative journalist”
Art Harris share.
They stand on that pedestal a man they do not and cannot really know, but idolize nonetheless. He rarely speaks, but when he does even the sparest of his words fuel their passions. “Anna was my world,” he once said. For them, that explains everything. The paternity question, the various men, the fact that no wedding invitation was ever produced although it is said that a legal wedding was to take place in two weeks. The various stupors Anna was in at awards shows and on personal video tapes. The excess of drugs, the excess prescriptions, the enabling. The ten year semi-employment that resulted in no Marshall settlement. The way he didn’t jump in the pool to save Anna, but called for Moe. The fact that no girlfriend of Daniel’s was ever found.
No, I DON’T believe HKS was a murderer, and I was STRONGLY against what the media did to him, but the FACT is Howard is a MERE man. He is not a hero of ANY sort. He did not SAVE ANYONE from anything. He did not SAVE LIVES, but was only present when they were squandered away.
Yet people like Maryst, and those she joins on Art’s blog, see him as worthy of MONTHS of their focus, time and dedication. They live, breathe, and . . .
Well, one poster actually said SHE’D SELL EVERYTHING SHE OWNED for an opportunity to sit next to Howard at the inquest. It did not appear she was joking, either.
Fans and fanatics both . . . those are the HKS posters. They, of course, proclaim that they’re only fans of THE TRUTH. Yet the fact of their comments reveals that the ONLY TRUTH they care for is that which raises their homemade hero’s place on their make-believe pedestal!
I-Am-Not-Surprised Says: it’s weird how obsessed people are with turning Howard into a hero…
Syn Says: He is not a hero of any sort. He did not save anyone from anything…..
It was Stern who was there for Smith whether she was fat, depressed, struggling – or confident, happy and on her way back up. It was Stern, who held Anna after the loss of her precious son. It was Stern, who tried to help her heal. A grieving devastated Stern, who saw to it that Dannielynn was cared for even while he was charged with fighting on Anna’s behalf, to see that her last wishes were fulfilled.Howard has maintained his dignity throughout this whole ordeal and has continued to protect Anna, Daniel and Dannielynn in his own quiet way, while he has privately grieved. Even to this day, we know that Howard is still trying to protect Anna, Daniel and Dannielynn, as he did throughout their short lives. I also pray that the public has seen what a kind and compassionate man that Howard K Stern is, and how he sacrificed his life, and possibly his future, to make things right for the memory of the woman, that he dearly loved and her baby daughter.Howard was the closest person in her life….he has been by her side for 12 years.Howard Stern is a wonderful man…everyone should be so lucky as to have a man in their life to care for them as he did Anna.
This man has gone through Hell the past few months and one can only imagine what it has done to him mentally and physically. He stood his ground from the beginning to protect Anna, Daniel and Dannielynn. I think, anyone would be proud to have someone like Howard to call friend. The way he stood by Anna and Daniel, in good times and bad, without judgement,shows his true character.
*If you didn’t think that I would recognize Jane Devin’s writing, you are mistaken. Please don’t plagiarize other people’s work on my site. Thank you….QV
syn writes about me
Yet people like Maryst, and those she joins on Art’s blog, see him as worthy of MONTHS of their focus, time and dedication. They live, breathe, and . . .
how often do you see my name at Art’s
how often do you read me idolizing HKS
how often have you read me state facts? I have made my position quite clear about Howard and his many mistakes yet you place me in with a young girl who idolizes a man
I WOULD NEVER IDOLIZE A MAN
Please get that straight about me, I worship the Father in Heaven through his son Jesus Christ and it is he alone and him only that I idolize and worship and believe in and it is He and Him alone I follow and what He puts in my heart
My life lives and breaths a lot of other things besides Art, HKS , VA believe me person I can multi task
anyway Syn if others want to adore Howard, that is their business and they are entailed to it
Who are you to mock them
Fox News Article; Anna Nicole Wrecked Everything
If 2007 was shaped by anything, it was the scuffle to pay for information about Anna Nicole Smith.
Before her death on Feb. 8, 2007, I had rarely, if ever, thought about Smith. I certainly had not written much about her. The birth of her baby the previous September was not that interesting. The death of her grown son was, but not that much. He wasn’t a celebrity. She was a Grade D personality, a buffoonish comic strip, a Marilyn Monroe pretender.
And then came her mysterious death at age 39 in Florida. Anna Nicole’s crazy exit from the world was terrible for her baby daughter, but worse for journalists who cover entertainment. Overnight, everything we held dear was wrecked.
For the weeks leading up to her death, Anna Nicole had turned up again on “Entertainment Tonight.” It was obvious they’d entered into some kind of deal with her and Howard K. Stern. And then, on the day she died, Stern suddenly became a fixture on the show. The money had been renegotiated.
Checkbook journalism? Sure. But worse than that: “ET” and its horrid counterpart show, “The Insider,” are owned by CBS through Viacom. The syndicator is called CBS Paramount Television. Times have changed. The Tiffany network now had a cousin that was willing to pay anyone and everyone for “exclusives.” And not of news that mattered. They were paying for this shrill crap.
It wasn’t like Larry Birkhead, the father of Anna Nicole’s baby, would be left out of the loop. I reported here on April 13 that his then attorney, Debra Opri, had cut a deal with NBC for Larry to appear exclusively on “ET” rival “Access Hollywood” for millions. NBC made their deal through Bravo, a subsidiary, pretending to make a documentary, rather than taint NBC News. It didn’t work.
Rob Silverstein, the executive producer of “Access,” told me then: “I’ve never seen a story where so many hands are out.”
And so many to fill them.
This column reported that Stern and Smith had made a deal with Paramount TV back before her baby was born. Then, when the baby arrived and Smith’s son died, “Entertainment Tonight” and “The Insider” began their long exclusive arrangement with Stern.
Sources also insist that Paramount Television paid for Smith’s lavish Bahamas funeral. “They put $300,000 into Dannielynn’s account,” an insider insists. “That’s how they bought their access.”
And Birkhead cashed in right along with Stern. He sold pictures of himself and baby Dannielynn to OK! Magazine for a million dollars before the Bahamas court even ruled that he was the father. The cash-out had gone crazy.
The most egregious thing “ET” and CBS Paramount did was turn Smith’s doctor, Dr. Khristine Eroshevich, into a correspondent, witness and source. The doctor is in thousands of feet of footage broadcast by “ET” and “The Insider.” She was called Smith’s best friend and confidante. What or how she was paid by the show is unclear.
Beginning on March 2, I told you in this column that something was up with Dr. Eroshevich. It wasn’t until Friday, Oct. 12, seven months later, that, search warrants were issued and searches of the doctor’s offices began by the Medical Board of California and the California Department of Justice.
In the intervening months, however, “ET” and “The Insider” continued to rely on her as a paid, factual source.
They didn’t seem to get it.
On March 16 I told you about a fax Dr. Eroshevich, Smith’s personal psychiatrist, sent to a Los Angeles pharmacy asking that a laundry list of drugs be couriered to the Bahamas for Anna Nicole. The doctor used the pseudonym “M. Chase” for Smith.
The list of drugs requested included four bottles of 2 mg Dilaudid; 2 ml bottles of Lorazepam (Ativan); two bottles of 350 mg Soma, a total of 180 tablets; one bottle each of 30 mg Dalmane and 400 mg Prexige, the latter a British drug; and one bottle of methadone, 300 5mg tablets. All of them are classified as different types of painkillers.
Eroshevich sent the fax on Sept. 15, 2006, a week after baby Dannielynn was born, five days after the death of Smith’s 20-year-old son, Daniel Smith, and about five months before the former Playboy pinup died.
You can read the whole story here. Dr. Eroshevich is now under investigation. Her offices are closed. Her name is not heard on “ET” or “The Insider” anymore.
Look back on the first six months of 2007. It seems impossible that so much time and energy was wasted on Anna Nicole, Howard K. Stern, and Larry Birkhead? Did it change our lives? Do you care now? The answer is no.
Of course, the Anna Nicole saga did not stop there. While interest in the principals finally waned, the extraordinary effort that was put in to such nonsense led us to September, and Britney Spears.
Just as anything with Anna Nicole’s name on it had grabbed us by the throats in the spring, now Britney was the autumn bookend. And now of course there was no hesitation. All bets were off. So, too, was Britney’s underwear. And that was an international headline.
Something else changed during those intervening months, too. Paparazzi became stalkerazzi. TV shows and Web sites now followed celebrities with video cameras, and posted the most unflattering, embarrassing moments within minutes. Celebrity children were no longer off limits. All the old rules were out the window. Everyone and everything were fair game.
Gossip, you know, was always fun. It was a guilty pleasure to know the rich and famous suffered in little ways. Their good news was also worthwhile. Somehow a little of the latter leavened the former.
Gossip columnists, who had to adhere to print journalism rules, knew that for the most part. They knew there was a balance. And they enjoyed the people they wrote about. You always got that from Liz Smith or Cindy Adams. In the old days, it was Earl Wilson and Leonard Lyons. It was their love of show biz that drew you in.
The new video stalkers, as well as many of the bloggers who’ve joined them, live on anger. Their tone is angry and bitter. No one is safe from this enmity.
Why are they so angry? Because they’re not being invited to join the celebrities to make the merriment that’s being recorded.
The velvet ropes, the nutty aggressive publicists and the hostile security people who look and behave like ex-cons have contributed to this. They’ve fed the anger. So now we’ll pay to get information on — [fill in the blank] —.
The reason? “They deserve it.” And that’s been the theme of 2007.
I don’t want ever to hear Anna Nicole Smith’s name again, but I’m sure she and her crew will come back to haunt us. We don’t seem able to get rid of Britney, and now her teenage sister — famous for nothing — looks poised to take the baton from her.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318725,00.html
what was that??????????
Gossip, you know, was always fun…
There’s a ‘family’ connection…in Hollywood and Washington DC.
So, Howard, or the Stern’s, are Paramount !!!
And, the Clinton’s are ???
And, the Kennedy’s were ???
And, Marilyn and Anna will live on, and on.
Guess they had hidden talents.
Actually their talents were never hidden, LOL.
I think FOX is being neglected, lately…maybe they’re not getting the credit they deserve.
Geraldo This Sunday!!
This Weekend
Geraldo ‘At Large’
Sun., Dec. 30 at 8 p.m. ET:
• Join us as we close out 2007 and look back at our top newsmaking stories of the year. Plus, we get you caught up on all the latest developments including what’s happened since we first showed you exclusive video of Anna Nicole high on drugs while pregnant with Dannielynn
QV, dear…
needless to say I won’t be watching FOX on Sunday…
or Geraldo!!!
I might watch Nancy Grace if ‘they’ would give her some ‘air time’ with her new babies!!!
But, if I were her I would keep them all to myself.
Gosh, that sweet Georgia Lady, sure did capture my heart.
Greta at least, didn’t have any babies.
I agree 100% with Maryst. Having
read most of her posts – I find this is a lady of high integrity.
I also love to read Frieda’s post. I consider her a fine lady.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO QV AND EVERYONE! MAY 2008 BE A BETTER YEAR FOR EVERYONE.
Regards, Skooly
Regards, Skooly
Maryst & Frieda, have you two recognized some of the names that post on this site supporting Virgie Team also post on Art’s site supporting Howard’s Team. This behove’s me.
Skooly
Dear skooly,
I am no fine lady…wish I were, yet then, probably not.
I would rather just be an ordinary mom.
I worry about Maryst, being so critical of her never won me any award.
Think she’s more than likely, a lot like me.
Now for this ‘thread,’ once again I gotta stand my ground…made of sand, the sands of time.
Seems it all just keeps shifting, back and forth with that tide.
I just love everyone, really.
Wish those people in the Middle East, and North Korea, and those that are freezing to death in Russia, had more warmth.
Winter won’t last forever, but ‘she’ is coming on strong…even with global warming…and pollution and over population…
Mother Earth is still here feeding us all.
skooly, you can post as any one here, I am maryst, thanks for the support
and now I am you, see how it works?
‘Howard Stern is a wonderful man…everyone should be so lucky as to have a man in their life to care for them as he did Anna.’
A wonderful man would have jumped in the pool to help save someone they loved.. He would worry about them and not what would have happened to himself if something tragic happened in the pool.. A wonderful man would have stood up and taken someone to the hospital regardless of what they wanted.. A wonderful man would have done anything to make sure their loved one was buried where they wanted them.. A wonderful man would have protected someone alive and not just an image after they passed.. A wonderful man would not change phone numbers or hang up calls.. A wonderful man would not video record or take pictures of someone that would embarass them or use for money.. A wonderful man would stop recording a video and comfort a child.. A wonderful man would have ethics as an attorney..A wonderful man would adhere to laws and not hide behind them in another country.. A wonderful man would know when to get help when things were beyond their control.. A wonderful man would protect an unborn child from prescribed drugs taken by the mother.. A wonderful man wouldn’t stand by and enable someone addicted to drugs..
A wonderful man would have the courage to stand up and fight with the person he loved to see what they were doing to themselves and those around them at all cost to help them no matter what the outcome. He would help them seek the professional help for depression and drug use. He would not ignore or enable them. He would do everything in his power to save them from themself. He would act unselfishly and risk everything for the one he loved. He wouldn’t be thinking of potential money gained or lost.
A wonderful man or just a man..
A man, but not a murderer, a man that had only one client, a man that only did his job to the best of HIS ability, a man that was never married, and a man that never had children.
I don’t think we really know this man, or how great or not he was, or is.
Seems to me he read a nice Eulogy for Anna for Dannielynn to read someday…wonder if he wrote it all by himself?
Seems he fell in love, rather with a dream…Daniel was not his son, nor his responsibility, and neither was Anna/aka Vickie.
He was simply a ‘Camcorder’ man, just like all the rest of the gawkers…but he did hold an umbrella, and toted her ‘bags,’ rather they were loaded with drugs or not.
I think Larry also toted those ‘bags,’ for her and got her pregnant, so at least Howard didn’t do that.
What about Anna/aka Vickie’s father and mother, and what about her very own responsibilities, and what about that?
She was never ‘his’ (Howard’s) wife, or daughter, just a client…
Until she had that child, and he did step up, at her request I believe, to sign a birth certificate, then I think it was too, late…she probably wanted him all along, just like she wanted Marshall, maybe.
And Daniel, well I wonder what he wanted and needed.
Anyway seems Chloral Hydrate made Marilyn and Anna stars…and who gave them the opportunity?
Of course, if it hadn’t been that it would have been something else.
Seems Larry, should be labeled an enabler, too…and all the others.
Gosh, if you are in your early teens or twenties…and want cocaine or heroin…or angel dust…or ecstasy…or whatever…it’s real simple and easy to get…
Or it used to be, and I doubt times have changed much.
Just a man, I think Howard would be happy with that title.
Just a man, I think poor Larry is also a daddy.
Just a mom, I think Virgie let her guard down and her kid got shot in the head.
Yep, Howard is just a man!!!!
just a man who is a nice guy, not a perfect man, made plenty of mistakes but if you take anyones life and put it under a microscope and if you want to find fault, you will
We are all human with all our flaws yet God loves us any way and forgives us for our sins, isn’t that a beautiful thing, to love us so much, to die in order that we may live, beautiful.
As far a Gerldo goes he was a heroin addict years ago, did it for “research” he of all ppl should understand drug addiction and what it does to ppl and families and how helpless we are to save an addict yet he wants to blame HKS for all of the problems when in reality most of our problems are rooted in us from our childhood. If we studied VA we would probably find problems in her childhood. As an adult I had to recognize it and break the chain but it took a long time to get here and it was not with out help and protection from our Heavenly Father.
What about Larry?
Why jump in the pool when you have a lifeguard standing there?
Why be a hero when you’re not?
Why pin it all on Howard?
Maybe Vickie wanted Howard to save her, just like she wanted Marshall to save her?
What about Daniel?
What about any of these people?
What about justice?
What about O’Quinn, and DO, and all the other famous personalities, and what about us?
A wonderful man, just a man, I’m happy with that, just so long as he’s not a murderer, and even if he was, it ain’t right to say that on National TV before a trial, before proof, before at least giving that a try.
There was no lifeguard. HKS wasted precious minutes screaming for Moe. Anna wound up with pneumonia for that episode.
Why pin it on Howard? Because he did plenty to help. He carried that duffel bag. He let those prescriptions be put in his name. He fetched the scripts. He fed them to her.
That was the easy thing to do. She didn’t take all those drugs herself. You don’t think he was taking them too?
Anything difficult, he took the easy way out. Now shes dead. He isolated her from her son and friends. No one to watch her and poof! Shes gone.
GREAT POST!!
A wonderful man would have jumped in the pool to help save someone they loved.. He would worry about them and not what would have happened to himself if something tragic happened in the pool.. A wonderful man would have stood up and taken someone to the hospital regardless of what they wanted.. A wonderful man would have done anything to make sure their loved one was buried where they wanted them.. A wonderful man would have protected someone alive and not just an image after they passed.. A wonderful man would not change phone numbers or hang up calls.. A wonderful man would not video record or take pictures of someone that would embarass them or use for money.. A wonderful man would stop recording a video and comfort a child.. A wonderful man would have ethics as an attorney..A wonderful man would adhere to laws and not hide behind them in another country.. A wonderful man would know when to get help when things were beyond their control.. A wonderful man would protect an unborn child from prescribed drugs taken by the mother.. A wonderful man wouldn’t stand by and enable someone addicted to drugs..
A wonderful man would have the courage to stand up and fight with the person he loved to see what they were doing to themselves and those around them at all cost to help them no matter what the outcome. He would help them seek the professional help for depression and drug use. He would not ignore or enable them. He would do everything in his power to save them from themself. He would act unselfishly and risk everything for the one he loved. He wouldn’t be thinking of potential money gained or lost.
Bravo to your post, Just Wonderful!
There is no mistake in the fact that Howard was a man who was victimized by the media and wrongly accused and called a murderer without being convicted by a jury. He had to suffer thru the loss of someone who he devoted his life and time with and he lost Daniel and DL in addition to that. There are mistakes made and consequences for those mistakes. God is forgiving for all mistakes made.. The law on the other hand is not so forgiving. There are questions that need to be answered and a responsibility to get those in order to find the truth and justice for Anna and Daniel. If there was any wrong doing that is for the law to deal with and then a judge and jury can decide. Only then will they be held accountable for their mistakes. In the end God will forgive them if they are guilty.
Truth, i so agree about Lin Wood. And it was not a mistake he made, How can you say I have the proof, and call it a mistake. Also , Howaed WAS puzzled about this also, he knew Moe did not do this, and because there was so many posting about moe Doing it , Howard knew there was no way I hold nothing against Moe that Taz says or does. They are 2 different minds, and Moe does not agree with her much. BUT as the ppl around Howard, and many of his supporters do, they ignore when one of them make a mistake, They don’nt want to talk about it, and nmaybe it will go away. But it should be dealt with. I lost most respect for wood after that. . But it shows what i have heard all along, Attornies are the worst when it comes to lyimg.
Truth it was maryst that said Wood made a mistake, not you , I just wanted to clairify that
hee-hheeee-hheeeeee………
I just caught the 9:44 a.m. comment by “stranger” and the owner’s quick reaction. LOL!
Even sweet old Jane, the Queen of death and troubled lives got sick of Stern and took all of her articles about him off her site. But look at how the hangers-on hang onto all that’s been written in his defense! And how they claim other people’s words as their own. Too pathetic!
Just Wonderful, you are just wonderful. And smart.
Dear ‘skooly,’
Thank you for your compliment, I’m not very good at excepting those.
Or is it complement, LOL.
I’ll check that spelling and those meanings.
Anyway, it would be nice to be remembered as a ‘Grand Old Dame,’ someday…
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071230/D8TRODVG0.html
…accepting, LOL!!!
Always a student…’skooly.’
I should try to change my name again, I guess.
I never did call Howard a wonderful man, I don’t thing…although I really got off track…I love tangents.
Sure is coincidental, the Chloral Hydrate, the birth, and the deaths…
I’m still really sitting on the fence ‘posting.’
If anyone has been defamed it was Virgie by her very own daughter.
So, who was the ‘Svengali’ after all?
I kinda think they were all in cahoots…
“I cried for you.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoliosis
Dear Great Post,
I thought she got pneumonia when she didn’t take care of herself, and seems she had pneumonia a few times before her death.
I still think she could have been HIV positive or something, or just weak from all her surgeries and drugs and Slim Fast…and not eating enough.
Seems none of the men in her life were wonderful or really cared for her, unless she was skinny.
Mostly, it seems she didn’t care for herself or her son, as much as she could have or should have.
Who posted in my name Dec. 30th at 12:16 am.
Whoever did this – it proves a lot about you to me. Please do not do this again.
This site states my e-mail will not be published.
*Skooly, Your email will never be published. I believe what Maryst was trying to show you is that anyone can use someone else’s user name on some blogs. I could set this one up so that user names can not be duplicated but it has not been necessary. But please rest assured that your information is private and Maryst did not use your email address…. QV
QV – thanks so much for the explanation. Maryst my apologies. I feel better about
posting here now.
Gosh I posted my email address once…and thought I’d be bombarded with hate mail.
Never got any response, or comment, or letter, LOL.
Wow, was I ever relieved…I was so naive!!!!
skooly, I posted your name to show you how easy you can post under anyones name,it is like TMZ
you were asking about arts site and the same names here, they are not the same person was my point, sorry for the confusion
Hi QV
I was just wondering when your new article will be up. Thanks for showing both sides of this saga.
*Hi. Are you are talking about the article about this site which was formerly a support site for “A Mother’s Last Wishes” and HKS? It’s a long story and I have a lot of material to go through. I am working on it but can not give you a definite date. It should not be too much longer though. Thank you for asking. QV
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