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Daniel Smith Inquest G.Ben Thompson Testifies

by QV on 01/31/2008

in Anna Nicole Smith, Daniel Smith, Daniel Smith Inquest, Larry Birkhead, Virgie Arthur

January 30th, 2008

At the inquest today, G. Ben Thompson testified. He said that Howard K. Stern took about four pictures of Daniel after he was pronounced dead and said they "might be worth some money one day".

Stern's attorney accused Thompson of fabricating the story due to the dispute over "Horizons".

The Inquest is adjourned until March 17th during which time, officials will seek testimony from other witness's including Larry Birkhead.

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/20373186079169.php

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1 AlamoGirl January 31, 2008 at 2:10 AM

Did anybody see the John Gibson Show today? He said that the toxicologist said that Daniel intentionally took the methadone~!! Everybody needs to email him and tell him he is wrong!

2 AlamoGirl January 31, 2008 at 2:11 AM

I’m glad G.Ben testified today. Hopefully the truth will come out!

3 Carole January 31, 2008 at 2:34 AM

it’s getting there slowly but surely Alamo Girl. I’m so glad that Ben and Ford did the right thing!

4 pza January 31, 2008 at 3:14 AM

Who asked for the postponement and did they give a reason?

T I A

5 pza January 31, 2008 at 3:18 AM

I’m assuming one of the reasons was that Larry wasn’t there and they want him to testify, but aren’t there still more witnesses besides Larry?

6 guesses January 31, 2008 at 4:55 AM

After Anna Nicole was taken away from the room, he saw Stern with a digital camera, the court heard.

“He took two, maybe three or four at the most, photos of the baby and Daniel,” Thompson said. “I was totally shocked. He was taking pictures of a dead child, lying on a bed.”

Thompson, who saw Daniel the night before he was found dead, also told the court the former Playmate’s son was “totally ecstatic” when they last spoke.

The court had been told by an expert that he died of an intentional overdose – which could be classed as a suicide if there is evidence of “self destructive statements” or “suicidal thoughts”.

But Thompson said that Daniel was “extremely happy” as he arrived on the island the previous night to see his mother and the newborn at the Doctors’ Hospital in Nassau.

He said: “He walked straight over and embraced his mother ad immediately wanted to hold the baby.”

“It give me chills to think about it,” he added. “He was extremely happy, he was all smiles, he couldn’t take the smile off his face.

“He was so happy to see his mother and the baby.”

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The above was in an article on showbizspy. Did I read it right? That after Anna was taken from the room he took pictures of Daniel and the baby or is that a misprint?

http://www.showbizspy.com/2008/01/31/howard-k-stern-took-of-anna-nicole-smiths-dead-because-they-might-be-worth-some-money/

7 guesses January 31, 2008 at 4:59 AM

pza Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 3:18 am
I’m assuming one of the reasons was that Larry wasn’t there and they want him to testify, but aren’t there still more witnesses besides Larry?
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I believe last month the magistrate or prosecutors were also wanting the nanny/Kapoor/Martino to testify also.

Larry said damaging statements after Daniel died regarding methadone. He has tried to settle with Opri also, maybe he doesn’t want anything under oath that might hinder the lawsuits against O’Quinn/Cosby.

8 pza January 31, 2008 at 5:00 AM

You read it right.
This all gives more credence to Rita’s book.

9 pza January 31, 2008 at 5:07 AM

Thanks, Guesses.

These lawsuits can go on for years, unless they’re dismissed, dropped or settled. I doubt that O’Quinn or Cosby will settle. My guess is that they will be dismissed as more and more is revealed, giving credence to both John O’Quinn and Rita Cosby. Oh, and Debra Opri too. (No wonder Larry tried to settle.)

I hope Martino, Kapoor, the nannies, the *missing* nurse all testify, as well as others. The postponements seem so arbitrary though. Why March? Why not next week or even next month?
I don’t get that.

10 guesses January 31, 2008 at 5:09 AM

Well now we know it takes foreverrrrr to get anything done in the Bahamas with that court system/lawyers.

I wonder how this will affect the DOJ investigation. Dr. E is scheduled to go back to court on the 5th. It appears that as long as she keeps appealing that the authorities may not be able to bring about charges.

11 pza January 31, 2008 at 5:09 AM

Well, it looks like we can add AP to the long and ever growing list of axe grinders:

“Smith’s Ex: Stern Took Photos of Body

By TOSHEENA ROBINSON-BLAIR, AP
1 hour ago

NASSAU, Bahamas — A former companion of Anna Nicole Smith said Wednesday that her attorney-turned-boyfriend Howard K. Stern took several photographs of the collapsed body of her late 20-year-old son for profit…”

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/entertainment/2008/01/30/Bahamas.Anna.Nicole.Smith.Son/

12 pza January 31, 2008 at 5:16 AM

guesses Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 5:09 am

Well now we know it takes foreverrrrr to get anything done in the Bahamas with that court system/lawyers.

I wonder how this will affect the DOJ investigation. Dr. E is scheduled to go back to court on the 5th. It appears that as long as she keeps appealing that the authorities may not be able to bring about charges.
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But there will eventually come a time when her appeals will be denied. My guess is that this will happen sooner rather than later.

The 5th, huh? hmmmm….
Is this to file another appeal, do you know?

TIA

13 guesses January 31, 2008 at 5:40 AM

I think Feb. 5th is when she is going back to court requesting some items to be returned to her.

I think the 5th is also the day that the Estate for Anna is due in court to make DL the sole heir.

Larry and Opri are due in court also sometime in Feb. to go to trial. I was thinking it was before the memorial that ET will pay for.

14 Carole January 31, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Guesses, this is not the first time we’ve heard about Dannielynn and Daniel and the pictures of them after Daniel’s death. Rita, I believe, mentions it in her book. I need to refresh my memory, but Ford had copies of those pictures on his plane and showed them to someone. I’ll try to find that if no one else can recall it.

15 AlamoGirl January 31, 2008 at 2:17 PM

So G. Ben got a call from Howard at 8am and the emergency code was sounded at 9:38am.

Howard, you are a horrible, horrible man.

16 NeldaSpanks January 31, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Larry’s gang went to Bahamas’ yesterday. Lisa and the tattoo girl “Aries” are there too. All staying at the Atlantis.

17 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Larry was there and couldn’t testify??????????

TMZ put up a new article and said Larry was still sounding ‘sick and stuffed up”.

18 NeldaSpanks January 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I think he is busy getting ready for the BIG ET exclusive.The inquest does not pay him enough to make it top priority.
As you can see from Lisa’s (Larry’s Assistant)myspace they are in the Bahamas’

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=74264773

19 NeldaSpanks January 31, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Carole, I remember reading that the baby was propped next to Daniel. If you see the PIC of Anna with the baby and her eyes all swollen,It looks so close to Daniel’s death photo, maybe Daniel was cropped out. Looks very much like the one with her and Daniel after he died.

20 Mish January 31, 2008 at 3:45 PM

“The developer’s son, Gayther Thompson, also testified Wednesday. He alleged that Stern appeared to dispose of two white pills that he had found in Daniel’s clothes after his collapse in the hospital room.”

Soooo when was this guy brought into the mix? Was Gayther at the Hospital??????

Now if I remember correctly wasnt it FS that said he seen Howard dispose of two pills pulled from Daniels jeans(this being done at Horizons).
Now its gaiher at the hospital??????

21 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

I’ll tell you exactly why the inquest has been postponed yet again, on Tuesday morning Ron Rale filed a plethora of frivolous motions to HALT it before the Nannies could testify.

22 Mish January 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

AlamoGirl
Where did you see that Ben said he got a call at 8?

23 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM
24 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 4:29 PM

MirandaRights Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Keep your sunny-side up .

http://wwwbonniesbrats-whistlebait.blogspot.com/
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whatis this site? Just a joke or is this true?

25 Karma January 31, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Miranda Rights

Where did you find out about Ron Rale filing motions to halt the Inquest? I’d be interested to know the reason behind all the delays.

26 Carole January 31, 2008 at 4:43 PM

I didn’t think Ron Rale could file a motion in the Baha’s as he isn’t licensed there. However it was reported that the inquested was delay on the 28th because Wayne Monroe was filing motions.

27 Carole January 31, 2008 at 4:47 PM

NeldaSpeaks, I know the picture you are talking about, but I don’t think it was from that time. The death pic with anna in it shows swollen eyes and very flushed, redden facial skin. The swollen eye shot, she is almost pale

28 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Karma,

That news was leaked by someone on the Island. Rale told Munroe how to go about putting a spoke in the wheels of justice yet again.

29 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Stern reportedly phoned Thompson around 8 a.m. and told him to hurry to the hospital. When he got there, Smith was already dead.

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_loc...

NOTE: 8:00 am would have been about the time Daniel transpired (5:30ish plus 1/2 hour to drowse out, plus 2 hours of coma before respiratory arrest)

at 9:38am, the nurse was summoned to the room; code blue was called 9:40am

Daniel:
8:00 – Calculated time of death
9:38 – Authorities alerted
9:40 – code blue
Anna:
12:00 – Calculated time of death
1:38 – Authorities alerted
1:40 – 911 from Hardrock Security to Broward Fire Rescue

it may not be over until the fat lady sings, but i think i can hear her warming up….

30 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 4:52 PM

Lest we forget, Ron is Stern’s homie.

31 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 4:57 PM

Anony, brilliant summary ! Scads of time to sanitize the scenes and time for another cocaine experience or two.

32 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 5:01 PM

THE FREEPORT NEWS

Thompson says Stern took photos of corpse

By ARTESIA DAVIS,Guardian Senior Reporter,artesia@nasguard.com

Howard K. Stern hoped to make money from the sale of pictures of Daniel Smith’s corpse, a coroner’s court heard yesterday.

South Carolina real estate developer G. Ben Thompson Senior made the allegation during his testimony at the inquiry into the circumstances of the 20-year-old man’s death. Smith died on September 10, 2006 while visiting his mother, Anna Nicole Smith, at Doctors Hospital where she had given birth three days earlier.

Thompson claimed that he was present when Stern, Ms. Smith’s live-in lawyer, photographed Smith as he lay dead in a hospital bed. Smith died from an overdose of methadone, a synthetic heroin substitute that is sometimes used as a painkiller.

Thompson said he was shocked to see Stern taking photos. He claimed Stern said the pictures “might be worth some money one day.” Thompson said he was surprised to hear that comment.

“I was totally shocked. He was taking pictures of a dead child in a bed. If he were taking pictures of my dead child, we would have fought,” he said.

But Stern’s lawyer, Shaka Serville, claimed that Thompson falsely attributed the comment to Stern. Thompson admitted that he did not tell police about the alleged remark during an interview with them. However, he pointed out that he did not tell police everything.

Serville suggested that Thompson felt Stern was standing in the way of sale of “Horizons”, the mansion on Eastern Road that Anna Nicole Smith and Stern called home. But Thompson claimed he did not have a buyer for the property, which Ms. Smith claimed he had given her.

Thompson said that Daniel Smith seemed happy when he last saw him alive around 12:30 a.m. on September 10, when he left to return to “Horizons.” He said he had asked Daniel to join him, but he decided to remain at the hospital with his mother and infant half-sister, Dannielynn.

Stern reportedly phoned Thompson around 8 a.m. and told him to hurry to the hospital. When he got there, Smith was already dead.

33 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 5:06 PM

So Stern phoned Thompson but didn’t even phone his own parents when Anna died. Stern surely felt that Thompson was very close to Anna and Danny to ring Thompson like that.
Salient point for the jury to take on board.

34 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM

this is from blueplum. Let her be praised for it, she is great. All the above times

35 Karma January 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM

So Stern’s attorneys are creating these delays. I can only conclude that they do not want this Inquest to conclude and do not want the truth as to what happened to Daniel. Why? Because Stern is the connection between the methadone getting to the hospital and killing Daniel. Shame on him.

Called GBT at 8:00? Before called for help? And even if, by some stretch of the imagination, GBT is wrong on the time, what about anywhere between 8 and 9:00 a.m.? Still too early.

I wonder how the Bahamians can justify another MONTH delay? Not a day, nor a week, but over a MONTH.

Unbelievable.

36 Mish January 31, 2008 at 5:42 PM

GBT and FS “Stories” have changed so much I wouldnt count them as credible.

37 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Actually Ben and Ford have not changed what they said at all though it will be interesting to see what Stern testifies since it can be compared with what he told Larry King and other people.

Right Karma, as we read on this site, BS said they had to focus on the inquest above all. The reasons are glaring!

38 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Carole Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
NeldaSpeaks, I know the picture you are talking about, but I don’t think it was from that time. The death pic with anna in it shows swollen eyes and very flushed, redden facial skin. The swollen eye shot, she is almost pale
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mrcontroversy.com is where the death picture is. half way down is a picture of what you speak of

39 Mrs. Marple January 31, 2008 at 6:37 PM

QV:

Thank you, so much for keeping us informed. It has gotten to were it is almost impossible to get accurate information. Bless your heart for being here and telling the truth and giving people the opportunity to express themselves.

I have known the facts of this case for such a long time but when I actually hear of the testimony of these same facts, I find myself chilled and repulsed beyond description.

Actually, it leaves me at a loss for words. Good Grief! The secret to shutting Mrs. Marple has been revealed. Just tell the truth. And the truth is overwhelmingly sad. There really isn’t much more to say.

I am sure the opportunity to counter propaganda and lies will present itself; but, for now just the truth of the testimony of people that had been subject to character assassinations and threats that braved going to a foreign country under threat of arrest to testify is enough.

For now, just the TRUTH is enough…

40 MirandaRights January 31, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Daniel Wayne Smith was never prescribed Methadone. The lies about it are actionable.

Just a quick reminder to those spreading that vicious rumor.

41 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 9:23 PM

so alamo girl knows more than the toxoligist??:

42 you see me January 31, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Hi QV
Ill be checking it out. Great info and I love how you allow everyone to be there own person.

43 you see me January 31, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Vivian
you know more than most

44 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 9:59 PM

how cute of you, i post what i read, not what i want it to read.http://www.bahamasb2b.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=9322
Anna was so distraught, about Daniel’s deathm, has anyone evr thought that she may have been responsible, for his death? Of course i am talking about a horrible acident. Daniel was up half the night helping Anna, and howard was a sleep,Daniel could not go to sleep, so maybe his mother, gave him something to help him, not knowing what he had ingested in the hours before.?? her screqming i’m sorry i’m sorry in the tent at the cemetery, sounds like that could have happened. Remember Anna had to wakre Howard up, when she found Daniel, not breathing.

45 Anonymous January 31, 2008 at 10:21 PM

VIVIAN Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 9:23 pm
so alamo girl knows more than the toxoligist??:

******

Vivian How come everything someone says, You seem to disagree with. if you read what is on Roses, most of its not true. Just like the woman in Bahamas that was with Virgie. It was not who Rose says it was. Iam glad she has to go to court and they are going to get to the bottom of it. So becareful what you say because they just might be right.

46 you see me January 31, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Vivian doesnt diasagree with everything just with what she doesnt belive in.

47 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 10:29 PM

i do not read any bodys blogs, except this one, i read all the interviews,, the court affidavites.I did not know i had to agree with everyone, to post, sounds like the HOWARD LOVERS TO ME ON ARTS I would like to see some proof of what is said, I see none, but grin and bear it , or QV can delete me.”"”http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=14907 the november 20th inquest. also remember Howard was asleep through the night, and at 6 when the nurse looked and saw Daniel helping his mother, Howard did not wake up untill Anna woke him.

48 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 11:15 PM

be careful what I say? maybe, you should watch what you say??? ever think of that?? when you find out you are wrong, are you going to call the authorities, and tell them they are wrong.?? end of session. I do know for certain what is true and what is not., in the issues, before the court , right now. when the other ones come up, I will also be ready for them. ITs just hard to go through this all over again. because i have to find all the links that were saved from the start Anna and Howard.. thank goodness i have help this time.

49 Rachel January 31, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Vivian: You said “Anna had to wake Howard up”. How do you know this? From Howard’s recollection of events? From Anna’s perspective? Those are the only two “witnesses” and one of those people are dead too. The other would certainly have, shall we say, “incentive” to recreate a different reality.

Howard laying in a bed with his eyes closed is no indication that he is asleep, especially in a hospital where there is activity in the room.

And what if it was Anna that gave Daniel the fatal dose. As tragic as that scenario is, that would be manslaughter. Anna was a grown woman and should have known better. Stern is a grown man and he should know better. Whomever it was that gave Daniel his fatal dose is responsible for his death.

50 Winston January 31, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Wait a minute here, Stern was not asleep all night. He was out smoking and went to get something away from the hospital twice.

Who said Howard slept all night?

51 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 11:52 PM

http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=14907
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=14890
i will find the other 2, also, Nurse laing was found not telling the truth when she tesrified, in the nov. 06 inquest.

52 VIVIAN January 31, 2008 at 11:54 PM

and yes it would be manslaughter, who ever gave Daniel the pills.

53 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 12:00 AM

January 30th, 2008 at 12:44 am
http://www.thenassauguardian.com/nat…6764537553.php
_________http://www.thenassauguardian.com/nat…6764537553.php this tell more of the story, if anyone is interested

54 Winston February 1, 2008 at 12:02 AM

Just as I thought, no confirmation of where Stern was during thatentire night and
Nurse Laing did not lie because she never had a chance to testify in court because she is a Missing Person.

55 Winston February 1, 2008 at 12:07 AM

If whoever gave the mega-doses of Methadone to Daniel Smith meant for him to die it would be premeditated murder.

No one gets that much by accident. Ben and Ford said he was smiling and happy. He didn’t commit suicide.

56 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 12:08 AM

she lied in the Nov. 06 inquest, and it was proven by the authorities, who had videos, of howard when he left , when he came back, how many times he left, if he had any thing in his hand when he returned

57 Anonymous February 1, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Mrs. Marple Says….. “The testimony of people that had been subject to character assassinations and threats that braved going to a foreign country under threat of arrest to testify is enough”.
================================
Mrs. Marple, do you really have no question in your mind about the character of these people (Shelly and Thompson)? Do you really think that they do not have an agenda? Are you really willing to accept what they say for the truth knowing what we all know to be the truth about them? Don’t you know that Howard is the real and true victom of “character assassination”?

58 Anne February 1, 2008 at 12:15 AM

I made the above comments.
Thanks, Anne

59 QV February 1, 2008 at 12:16 AM

Watch Access Hollywood if you get it on the east coast…they are going to talk about the inquest!

60 Tropicana February 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Howie made a big slip. He wants everyone to believe that he was sound asleep, yet told LK, Daniel asked, *why am I so tired*. If Howie was sleeping how did he hear what Daniel asked?

61 Tropicana February 1, 2008 at 12:19 AM

LOL… Anne, Howie is no victim, he is the survivor of two unexpected deaths.

62 Winston February 1, 2008 at 12:21 AM

They did not have videos, they had still shots because the tape had been all hacked up. The nurse who said Stern left twice wasn’t even there in court for the inquest because she is missing.

Her name isn’t Laing anyway:

“The records also show that Stern left the room a few hours before Daniel died. A nurse places him out of the room at 4 a.m. Nurse Odumade Adenike noted that sometime after 2 a.m. Stern went to the nursing station and asked what restaurants were open – despite having already purchased soda, sandwiches and chicken strips at a 24-hour mini-mart an hour earlier.

“He left and returned back about 4:00 a.m., but he had nothing in his hand and went straight to the room,” Adenike told police.”

This was the nurse’s statement right after Danny died. Now she has gone missing which is very strange.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,1536410_20015926,00.html

63 Winston February 1, 2008 at 12:26 AM

No one has ever questioned Stern’s character. It’s an open book of freebies and angry fits when he doesn’t get his way according to Larry Birkhead.

He also is cruel to older people.

64 TheRestOfTheStory February 1, 2008 at 12:35 AM

QV Some of us don’t catch Access Hollywood. Would you keep us apprised at to what is in the show?

TIA

65 dying for the truth February 1, 2008 at 12:50 AM

thank you QV for for site, thank everyone for all of their hard work. I want justice for Daniel and Anna. It also scares me that the last surveilance video tape from the hospital disappeared as well. The one that I am sure would verify that Howie left the room more than once…..Plus where is Moe’s book, I was dying for it to be released,….. then what:?:??:?

66 Rachel February 1, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Howard assassinated his own character by his own actions and his own words. He is not a victim of anyone but himself and his cruel and calculating nature.

May Daniel and Anna rest in peace.

67 QV February 1, 2008 at 1:17 AM

Neil McCabe was interviewed and said that the doctor (Hearn) said that Daniel either died from suicide or homicide. And that it was not an accident. He also said that Howard himself said that Daniel did not commit suicide. I was on the phone when it came on so those are not the exact words that McCabe said.

68 MirandaRights February 1, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Thank you QV. The only alternative of course is homicide. No one will ever believe that Anna did it so the remaining occupant of the room is designated by the simple process of elimination.

69 Anne February 1, 2008 at 1:48 AM

Vivian,

Thank you for all that you do. You do not appear to be for or against anyone. You are only interested in the true facts and I, for one, truly appreciate you.

70 I Don't Understand ! ! ! February 1, 2008 at 1:59 AM

Howard said on LKL that Anna wanted him to take the pictures of her and Daniel. But Howard said that Anna was inconsolable. Then how would she be able to even think about oh you need to take a picture, so I will know that Daniel died.

71 Carole February 1, 2008 at 2:19 AM

There isn’t a mother alive who has lost a beloved child and not known it and remembered it to the depth of her soul. Anna needed no reminders of her lose. I have no doubt it was scored into her heart so that with it’s every beat, she felt her loss, over and over and over. Howard is a liar. He took those pictures of Anna and Daniel for the money it could bring him, and he took pictures of Daniel and Dannielynn, I believe for the same purpose. I just hope Ford Shelley has turned those over to the proper authorities also.

72 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 3:36 AM

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/bixex/322668080424822.php
THIS IS THE ARTICLE, PROVING NURSE lAINE, WAS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. IN THE FIRST INQUEST

73 QV February 1, 2008 at 3:36 AM

And ty for not mentioning any names. Eyes are watching **

74 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:12 AM

The name of this blog, was named after Anna and howard for a reason. That reason was to stop the runaway, media, from trying to convict Howard in the press. No one told QV or asked her to start this. She did it because she believed in the injustice, that was being done. And we all joined her for the same reason. NO researcher on this Blog, lied about Vergie, or Howard. We posted what evidence we found, WITH EVIDENCE to prove it. Vergie and OQuinn went on an all out campaign, to slander Howard. IF you all would stop to read all the interviews, they have done, it shows how they both have lied big time. They started this campaign, and it is still on going, They are trashing everyone in their,path. What was said about Vergie was all true. I will not be called a liar, and i would NEVER go around bashing anyone, true or not, they way you are doing to Howard. IF you don’t know for sure , don’nt say it, Howard does have things he has to answer to, but it is a long way from murder. I will defend him in all the situations, that have come up so far.that i have researched. To ruin someones life and reputation, with out the evidence, is injustice to the max. I promise i will not come back and post,and i do stop for a while, becuse no one reads or listens to anything they do not want to hear. I read what you all say, and i go out and keep searching for the truth of what you say, or the other truth. So far I have not found anything anywhere that says Howard murdered anyone. What i do find, and you comment to you have your own spin, its really sad. i feel sorry, that you can’nt take the truth. Thank you Anne , i needed that, and mish, we have done this together for a lomg time. QV thank you for this blog, I know you wanted to put both sides out there, and i respect that, and for not taking sides anymore.

75 Exhibit "A" February 1, 2008 at 4:35 AM

VIVIAN Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 4:12 am

“To ruin someones life and reputation, with out the evidence, is injustice to the max.”

“The name of this blog, was named after Anna and howard for a reason. That reason was to stop the runaway, media, from trying to convict Howard in the press.”

“NO researcher on this Blog, lied about Vergie, or Howard. We posted what evidence we found, WITH EVIDENCE to prove it.”

“What was said about Vergie was all true.”

“mish, we have done this together for a lomg time.”

Well Vivian…..A reminder to you is Vergie was not present when Anna or Daniel died, Howard was.
I hope you and your fellow posters can back up what you have said about Vergie abusing Anna and all the other viscious things said about her. You may have to do it soon. I personally can’t wait to see your EVIDENCE.
Remember your own words….”To ruin someones life and reputation, with out the evidence, is injustice to the max.”

76 BamaCat February 1, 2008 at 4:48 AM

I just wanted to let everyone know I posted the 2 pics that everyone is trying to compare at BamaCat Art. The ones of Daniel dead & Anna cradleing him & the one of Anna holding DannieLynn in her hospital bed.
I have blocked out Daniel’s face since it is so disturbing for some.
I also posted all of the different hospital pics of Daniel’s last moments alive.
There is one fuzzy one of G. Ben Thompson w/ Anna & DannieLynn.

Also I think it was the bodyguard that Debra Opri hired for Larry that was on the plane & saw all of those dead Daniel pics wasn’t it?
Mark Spears, I think.
Someone asked about that earlier & I think this is who they meant.

BTW It seems ET & sInsider is in the hot seat after purchasing the Heath Ledger drug tape that someone made at a party 2 years ago.
ET & sInsider purchased it & planned to show it tonight (Thursday night) in a special however Access Hollywood reported it to Heath’s publicist & the corporations that sponsored ET & sInsider put a stop to it after public outcry.
I guess the old adage, “Hit ‘em where it hurts…the ole pocketbook” still holds true today huh? LOL
Maybe after that ET & sInsider will stop all of their slandering the dead (like they are doing Daniel).
I wonder if HK$ was the one who shot that video…ole Howie always was camera ready & they did like their drugs.
I meant this humorously but it isn’t too far fetched. LOL

77 MirandaRights February 1, 2008 at 4:49 AM

We have all seen that Mrs. Arthur has been lied about many times and accused of many things she never did. From that fake family tree to stangers saying they know exactly what she thinks, it went out of control.

Yet other lies are being dished up, such as saying a nurse lied at an inquest when that nurse didn’t even appear at the inquest and is in fact missing. Repeating the same lie ad nauseum does not turn it into the truth.

All the efforts to ruin Mrs. Arthur’s life and keep her from her little granddaughter have blown up in the faces of her persecutors.

She has told the truth more consistently than any other person in this awful debacle and lost the most.

She is not living in a house swindled away from it’s rightful owner. She provided and dispensed drugs to no one. She didn’t live off her parents but earned a living for herself and her children.

No one went to a private investigator about her trying to keep her daughter away from people. No one ever had to say that they were afraid of her.

All the bad things about the other party were brought out by Larry Birkhead and other friends of Anna Nicole as well as her son.

The worst things said about Anna Nicole’s house guest were said by Lincoln Bain and Anna’s two nannies.

Why are two men who weren’t even in Anna Nicole Smith’s Will as recipients living in DL’s houses? They are doing it illegally.

78 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:54 AM

noone said vergie was present when Anna died, so what? And there is nothing more to say about Vergie, all the research has been done. all the interviews she has done, and the court transcripts, are all out there for prosterity, Anna’\.s own words are out there about her mother, the book she wrote in 94or 96 will be out one of these days, I have nothing more to say about her, It is all there documented. We never made up lies about Vergie, like she and Oqinn have done since day one. You are wearing blinders. And i for one, will go back to my little blog again, and keep the links rolling in.

79 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 5:00 AM

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/bixex/322668080424822.php here it is again THE FIRST INQUEST when the nurse lied,,,,

80 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 5:04 AM

also, asnna never used methadone in pill form, she used liquid, like Marlyin Monroe. so perhaps Daniel had is own stash of pills.

81 AlamoGirl February 1, 2008 at 5:11 AM

Well Vivian…..A reminder to you is Vergie was not present when Anna or Daniel died, Howard was.
I hope you and your fellow posters can back up what you have said about Vergie abusing Anna and all the other viscious things said about her. You may have to do it soon. I personally can’t wait to see your EVIDENCE.
Remember your own words….”To ruin someones life and reputation, with out the evidence, is injustice to the max.”
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Bravo! exhibit A!

82 Another reader February 1, 2008 at 5:28 AM

Bama I saw that. Heath’s PR people released a statement/petition that basically said ET was exploiting Heath for ratings. They did the same thing with Anna probably knowing she needed money.

They also had Dr. Phil exploiting the Britney saga. Then they’ve had that paparazzi guy Adnan on there revealing Britney’s voice mails.

83 MirandaRights February 1, 2008 at 5:34 AM

Anna DID take both liquid and pill Methadone :

“Shelley, who testified that Anna Nicole kept her drugs in a duffel bag, said he saw prescription bottles — including the painkiller methadone in pill and liquid form — made out to at least four different aliases when he unpacked her luggage during a trip she made to South Carolina to visit developer G. Ben Thompson, a former boyfriend”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326566,00.html

To lie about a dead boy is disgusting !!!!

84 Another reader February 1, 2008 at 5:34 AM

VIVIAN Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 5:04 am
also, asnna never used methadone in pill form, she used liquid, like Marlyin Monroe. so perhaps Daniel had is own stash of pills.

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Vivian, is something wrong with your keyboard? LOL

Where is your proof that Anna didn’t have pill form of methadone?

Even Art reported that the methadone was used to wean Anna in smaller increments. Some in their opinion believe the liquid was for the baby. Babies are often given .5 or 1mg (1ML)(1/5 tsp) of liquid for withdrawals from what I’ve read.

85 Anne February 1, 2008 at 5:47 AM

AlamoGirl Says:
“Well Vivian…..A reminder to you is Vergie was not present when Anna or Daniel died, Howard was”.
AlamoGirl, you are correct, Virgie was not present when Anna and Daniel died nor had she been present for the last 12 years. Howard was, indeed, present and had been present for the past 12 years. Where else in the world should Howard have been??? They were always together – through the good times and bad -so of course Howard was present.

AlamoGirl also said….
“I hope you and your fellow posters can back up what you have said about Vergie abusing Anna and all the other viscious things said about her”.
AlamoGirl, I don’t know how you could ask for more evidence than has been presented. Vivian has posted over and over evidence and has not put a spin on anything concerning Virgie – none of us have. I don’t understand how you could just ignore everything that Anna has said, the actions and words of Virgie herself, etc. – I just don’t understand how you could be that blind.

86 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 7:37 AM

A book being shopped to publishers this week finds Anna Nicole Smith — via a series of never-printed interviews she gave journalist Joyce Wagner back in 1996, at which point she was fresh out of rehab and bankrupt by an ex-nanny’s harassment suit — chronicling a childhood of parental and sexual abuse, as well as her intimate encounters with husband J. Howard Marshall.

In a snippet played for the New York Daily News’ Rush & Molloy, Smith recalls how when she returned from running away from home at age 12, mom Virgie Arthur “started beating the s— out of me… kicking me with her boot,” and in another instance “hit me with her [deputy sheriff's] nightstick.” Smith also recounts sexual abuse, though Wagner isn’t previewing any details on that.

As for her and J. Howard’s sexcapades, Smith says, “He could not exactly satisfy me, which is to be expected, but he was very satisfied himself.” (Well, duh.) “He satisfied me in other ways. He cared about me… never looked down at me.”

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TVGuide Links:

Anna Nicole Smith
Virgie Arthur
January 25th, 2008 at 1:21 am
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Anna-Nicole-Book/800013881

do not know if the book was sold.

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Posted by Matt Webb Mitovich
Apr 30, 2007 9:03 AM
Anna’s personal computer, she did her own drug buying. The computer Taz was using was not Anna’s, it was her own

http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/15/anna-computer-has-e-mails-from-drug-docs

VIVIAN Says:

87 Mary February 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM

AlamoGirl, I don’t know how you could ask for more evidence than has been presented. Vivian has posted over and over evidence and has not put a spin on anything concerning Virgie – none of us have. I don’t understand how you could just ignore everything that Anna has said, the actions and words of Virgie herself, etc. – I just don’t understand how you could be that blind.

Anne,
Part of the problem, at least with me, is that after watching ANS from the time she was on the stand in the Marshall case to now she did not always tell the truth. The fiasco she created with the paternity of her child is a prime example. Therefore some of the things ANS said I take with a grain of salt. Her mother abusing her is one of many. I need more proof for any of the theories posted here than what a few newspaper articles or Stern or even Anna herself say. Sorry, that is my reality.

88 AlamoGirl February 1, 2008 at 1:21 PM

present.

AlamoGirl also said….
“I hope you and your fellow posters can back up what you have said about Vergie abusing Anna and all the other viscious things said about her”.

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If you look back at the original post you will see that I was reposting what Exhibit A said. I only said Bravo!

89 Mary February 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Alamogirl
I was using what Anne said to you in my post. Did not mean to offend you.

90 Anonymous February 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Mary Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
AlamoGirl, I don’t know how you could ask for more evidence than has been presented. Vivian has posted over and over evidence and has not put a spin on anything concerning Virgie – none of us have. I don’t understand how you could just ignore everything that Anna has said, the actions and words of Virgie herself, etc. – I just don’t understand how you could be that blind.

Anne,
Part of the problem, at least with me, is that after watching ANS from the time she was on the stand in the Marshall case to now she did not always tell the truth. The fiasco she created with the paternity of her child is a prime example. Therefore some of the things ANS said I take with a grain of salt. Her mother abusing her is one of many. I need more proof for any of the theories posted here than what a few newspaper articles or Stern or even Anna herself say. Sorry, that is my reality.
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Stern is the one that saidthat the baby was his not Anna. I see no where that Anna said that. Stern did it on LKL. He is the liar

91 Anonymous February 1, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Half of you guys just write anything to make Stern seem inocent. Just like the methadone. Nobody has seen all of Annas medical records in her life to know if she used liquid or pill form. Also Et is where you get a lot of your information. It is an entertainment site. Half of the things you read on there are wrong. Also Roses site is wrong. It had a picture of a lady with Virgie, and said it was eniny. It was 100% wrong. If you have seen the medical recors or have known Anna then maybe you can say you know but most have not and do not know anything only what you read and some of that is wrong.

92 Nelda was her name February 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM

The doctor from my understanding said it was an intentional death which means could have been suicide or homicide but it was not accidental

93 AlamoGirl February 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Mary Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Alamogirl
I was using what Anne said to you in my post. Did not mean to offend you.
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That’s ok, I wasn’t offended per say. Just didn’t want to be misunderstood. Thanks

94 freida February 1, 2008 at 3:57 PM

No one knows what ‘it’s’ like unless you have been there.

Or if you were there?

So, what ‘are’ the facts?

Seems mostly we are passionate,

What a wonderful thing.

I’m trying my best to stay on every bodies ‘good side’…

Sitting on my fence, and going
so low as to eat the grass on both sides.

When it grows the greenest.

I don’t want to be a partay pooper, though.

So the story goes, once upon a time…and what about Michael Jackson in Neverland?

He looks like a white Pinnochio (sorry I don’t spell so good).

95 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Stern is the one that saidthat the baby was his not Anna. I see no where that Anna said that. Stern did it on LKL. He is the liar
, YOU had better get your facts straight. ANNa was on national tv, saying Howard was the father. SHE had him go to the Bahama’s and sign the birth certificare, AFTER bEN BOMBED. And it also has been said time and again that Anna never used methadone pills. Your telling us that that bottle of mrthadone in the refridge, was for Dannielynn?? Also, Dannielynn was drug free when she was born. Yes there are articles and DRS, out there that this info i am stating are the truth. I am tired of searching all my files giving GOOD TRUTHFUL info, and having it thrown in the garbage.or putting a big spin on it. Also Anne, i totally agree ith you about Anna. She has lied so much through her life, about so many things, its hard to tell what the truth is. What ever happened to Anna in her life , is something none of us can say, for certain. Only the things that are proved to be trueis what i believe. and I have said before, Vergie could not help Anna, all the people before Howard could not help Anna. Anna always managed her managers,her money, her drugs. If she had stayed in CA.and dealt with her problems,instead of running away, to the Bahama’ given Larry his visitation, She and Daniel would still be here today. And itwas Ben Thompson, Anna and Shelley Ford who started this part of Anna’s lfe. Howard was left in Ca. and would still have been there if Ben would have agreed to be the baby’s father. Lets put the blame . if there is any ,Where it belongs.

96 Anonymous February 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM

just an observation: the other day a poster ridiculed another for using an article from december 10, 2007 saying that it was an old article yet the info was from the inquest. now someone posts a link to an article from march 2007 about what the nurse was claiming to prove that the nurse didn’t lie even though another link to an article from the inquest shows that she did and that there were no missing security tapes as they were admitted into evidence at the inquest. which side does the spinning?

97 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM

By the way, I do not get my info from ET, Art Harris or any other station. i would like to know where you all get your info,And I would like for you to show ME some PROOF for once. I see no links on any of these pages, that even comes close to what you are saying, unless it is from trash, blogs,Go to the shows yopu all lobve . Go to the Shows vergie was on, and Oquinn, and get their transcripts, and read ,read read, Go to the court transcripts out of flodia, and read, .

98 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:25 PM

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/bixex/322668080424822.php
THIS IS THE ARTICLE, PROVING NURSE lAINE, WAS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. IN THE FIRST INQUEST The Tape and Nurse Laing’s testimony are already a part of the the Inquest. they did’nt erase the first inquest. It was only postponed , like the one this week was, an the inquest this week, will still be good in March. So they do not need nurse Laing again,and i am sure she does not want to come back and perjure herself. again. This is the 4th time i have posted this, and it shows you do not really want the real truth. you try to bebunk it, or ignore it.

99 Exhibit "A" February 1, 2008 at 4:29 PM

VIVIAN Says:
February 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm

And it also has been said time and again that Anna never used methadone pills. Your telling us that that bottle of mrthadone in the refridge, was for Dannielynn?? Also, Dannielynn was drug free when she was born. Yes there are articles and DRS, out there that this info i am stating are the truth. I am tired of searching all my files giving GOOD TRUTHFUL info, and having it thrown in the garbage.or putting a big spin on it.

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Can you provide some links that PROVE that Anna ONLY took methadone in liquid form?

Can you also PROVE that DL was born drug-free?

Thank you in advance for providing us with your truthful information.

100 VIVIAN February 1, 2008 at 4:30 PM

IT behooves me that because someone said the lady with Vergie was Einy, Everyone lies. and Howard is guilty of Everything.This is not about someone saying it was Einy. could be a lie or a mistake, who are we to judge who ever said that?

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