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A Not So Quiet Departure

by QV on 02/09/2008

in Anna Nicole Smith, Bonnie Stern, Howard K Stern, Krista Barth, QV

We ended our last article with the discovery that the email address Bonnie Stern offered to my moderators belonged to a couple who openly practice the BDSM lifestyle. That would be “R” and her husband.

The researchers had not wanted “R” handling their work. Ms. Stern was well aware of that but offered the email address anyway. When asked, she said that it belonged to “the liaison”. It is safe to say that Bonnie was not above a bit of trickery and deception to keep the flow of information going to “R” no matter what.

Also, remember that Bonnie gave the email expressing concern for Howard’s reputation to “R” in addition to “R” blogging about receiving a phone call about “my” email from the “new attorney” in Lin Woods office. Ben Erwin is who I sent my email to.

“R” had denied ownership of the porn sites but in the past six weeks or so, I had been witness to writings with claims of imaginary members on her blog and charges of harassment that never happened and accusations of causing problems for the Stern family when I had stayed the course.

A person recently posted on my site; “R” has never been given any orders by Bonnie either, as she says and I believe her. Call it orders or direction, whatever you like, but anyone who believes that is wearing blinders. I have already shown it to be true in an email from Bonnie to “R” where she tells “R” and the video man to concentrate on the inquest and let the chip fall where they may with the paternity issue, and more will come with this article.

What is to be believed when one lie after the other is exposed? True, my heart was no longer in it, but I did care about the people that belonged to my website. I saw their hurt when Bonnie started removing anyone that had anything to do with me from her MySpace friends list. I also was starting to receive copies of emails that had circulated between Bonnie, “R” and Krista Barth and even Gary Stern and was surprised at the level of behind the scenes action and all the hush hush that my site was being used for without my knowledge.

Picking up where I left off, the other blogger and I invited the four moderators from my site to a private chat and we told them our findings about “R’s” husbands email address. They were shocked but also amused. Here is a snippet of the conversation that still makes me laugh after all these months.

[QV] 10:23 pm: Roses site is Bondage, sadism and masochism

[“b”] 10:23 pm: she is involved in that?

[mod 2] 10:23 pm: she’s into that?

[mod 3] 10:23 pm: oh

[mod 2] 10:23 pm: holy shittt

[“b”] 10:23 pm: sorry ROFLMAO

[QV] 10:23 pm: lololoo!!!

[“b”] 10:23 pm: didn’t expect that one

Pretty shocking at the time. Anyway, I felt that the members should know about this. I know I would have wanted to know. So I told them and boy was I wrong. There was mass hysteria. Some people were upset that it was even mentioned and said, it should have been kept quiet. Others were shocked and left the site never to be heard from again. And some were very supportive.

The moderators were in the chat room trying to answer questions that they had no answers to and I was watching the blog trying to answer questions there and email questions.

Then “b” came out to the blog and posted a very disrespectful post to me calling my outing of what was going on “childish”. That would have been fine for me in an email but not on my blog so I told her to hit the road.

But it was all good. When people wanted to support Howard and stay with a blog owner that did not, I was very touched. However it was not going to work out and I knew it long before.

People could not understand what all of the above had to do with Howard. I did not tell most about the email that “Bonnie wrote from Howard”. Nor did I tell them about the site where I still permitted video to be stored with the lone Bahamian IP accessing it at the same time that *******@ hkstern.com was taking a look. And I certainly did not tell them about phone conversations that I was told about or emails that I was made privy to that showed me that it all had plenty to do with Howard and in my opinion, he did know what was going on.

I wagered that a man like Howard K. Stern does not just hand total carte blanche over to even his sister without offering some guidance and being apprised of current events. And I was correct.

And so, Bonnie sent an email to a member asking her to post on the board that the family did not need or want anymore research done on their behalf. It was also sent in an email to me, the other blogger and the video man. Along with a “thank you”. To me it was a thank you for allowing me to kick you in the face.

The video man emailed his attorney contact at Lin Wood’s office and asked him what was going on. After “VM” told him about the email from Bonnie, he never heard from him again.

I knew it was time to throw in the towel. I didn’t like what was coming out in the press and got to the point that even trying to go through the motions was disgusting to me.

“R” was waiting on her blog with open arms. I knew the liberal blogger’s on my site would get over their BDSM revulsion like they have. Always remembering that Howard’s supporters came to my blog not for me but to support Howard, I closed up shop.

I felt bad for the many people whose feelings were hurt by decisions that I had to make but I felt that I did the best that I could under the circumstances. Some that left and never came back, I will always think fondly of. Several are still so dear to my heart. Others turned out to be vicious, cruel and unreasonable people prone to stalking and bullying like behavior.

As, I shut the door on this outrageous and compelling year of my life, I imagine a small elderly blond grayish woman . She is standing tall with a whip in one hand and a cattle prod in the other shouting “THIS SITE WILL NOT CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL STRESS FOR THE STERN FAMILY”! She is then rewarded by Aunt Bon Bon wearing a pink tu tu throwing chocolates in her mouth one after the other. The woman then bursts into a hearty rendition of Yankee Doodle Dandy followed by a moving recital of the Constitution of the United States of America.

With that in mind, I will leave you with some true and provable information, as is all the rest of what has been written.

This is my gift to those who have no concept of do unto others.

~QV~

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{ 210 comments }

101 glenna February 10, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Moe lacks integrity. Integrity goes to LE and stays off of entertainment TV. One looses there integrity when they think just because someone dies that gossiping about them on TV is OKay. If Moe really cared and if Moe really had pertinent info, then Potts is not the man to go to. If he has given this info to the authorities then his job is done and he needs to shutup.

102 Lucy February 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

To me, another huge lack of integrity would be to try and obstruct justice by joining a group that’s sole purpose was to dig up dirt on innocent people to deflect from someone who has much to hide.

103 TheRestOfTheStory February 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

glenna Says:
February 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Moe lacks integrity. Integrity goes to LE and stays off of entertainment TV. One looses there integrity when they think just because someone dies that gossiping about them on TV is OKay. If Moe really cared and if Moe really had pertinent info, then Potts is not the man to go to. If he has given this info to the authorities then his job is done and he needs to shutup.
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Sure you would like him to shut up. I’m sure Moe has told all this to the authorities. What makes you think he didn’t. He’s probably going on air about it because he wants it out in the open.

104 Carole February 10, 2008 at 10:19 PM

What I wanna know is which one is the midget that goes around in swamps saving folks….and has a daughter who ran away from school who she had to chase on her little midget legs?

105 glenna February 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Actually I like all the media coverage. I personnaly do not want any of them to shut up because then I wouldn’t be able to watch em on TV. I just find some of it to be hypocritical. As well as full of bologna.

106 glenna February 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I have little midget legs but I do not run through swamps. My daughter is working on her PHD : ).

107 MAGIC WANDA February 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM

There are midgets running wild in the swamps of Nova Scotia.
ROFLMAO

108 Mish February 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM

When in discussion with an opposing view point, please just discuss your opinion and do not call each other names or swear at them or accuse them of anything. I have been guilty of the same on other sites as well but I am not going to argue with people anymore. I’ll just state my case and move on. I know it is hard to do but things seem to be getting out of hand everywhere.

Please help me keep this site a pleasant place to discuss the many facets of the life and death of Anna Nicole. Thank you….QV

109 Mish February 10, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Lucy
Just to let you know that Vivian and QV are friends. They have differing opinions but are still freinds and civil to each other. I would hope that QV would step in and say something.

110 Mish February 10, 2008 at 10:48 PM

QV
Any one putting a guilt trip on you?

“No one, with the possible exception of a few of you Sternies, is trying to put a “guilt trip” on QV or anyone else.”

111 Lucy February 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM

You know Mish, I really don’t care who is friends with whom. I’m new here and don’t know one player from another, except for the few I post with on other boards, of course. From the rude posts I’ve read from Vivian, QV has my sympathy. I just suggest that Vivian let QV speak for herself. Coming on here talking about how disappointed she is in something her “friend” did or said seems to me to be in poor taste. Doesn’t she have her “friends” email address? That might be the more respectful route to take.

112 Tropicana February 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I’m still in awe that Ray Martino’s name has been put on that fund. I’d love to know the story behind that. Something wrong here, as Henry Lee would say.

113 Mrs Marple February 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Windi Says:
February 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Well I WAS going to have fetticine for dinner but i just changed my mind.
___________________________________

I am thinking pancakes! LOL!

114 Lucy February 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Mish, you didn’t read back for enough. The “guilt trip” idea wasn’t mind to begin with.

115 Lucy February 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM

Tropicana, I agree with you AND Doctor Lee. There’s definitely more going on there than meets the eye.

116 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Tropicana Says:
February 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I’m still in awe that Ray Martino’s name has been put on that fund. I’d love to know the story behind that. Something wrong here, as Henry Lee would say.

Mybe Bonnie was overstepping

117 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM

yes she does have her address, as do I. Ill wait to see what qv has to say.

118 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM

how far back is the guilt trip thing? I didnt see it. I would like to.

119 Lucy February 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM

It was within the last eight hours.

120 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM

thank you

121 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Lucy also I have been here for a long time actually since the begining. I dont think that Vivian was being rude to QV.
Believe me QV has gotten alot worse.

122 Mish February 10, 2008 at 11:58 PM

I looked I dont see it, if you would be so kind to point me in the direction, I can be better informed.

123 QV February 11, 2008 at 12:56 AM

Everyone, please listen. There are people that are trying to start all kinds of trouble over what has been revealed. They are trying to stir up trouble in an attempt to minimize the damage to Howard by making things up or blowing things out of proportion

I am not talking about the conversation here but everywhere.

To give you an answer about the question asked here, I will say nothing. Nothing! Because anything that I would say one way or the other will just cause more controversy.

And I will not answer the stupid questions that the psychopath on TMZ is trying to start trouble with.

Nor will I respond to the other nut case that got sent over to Topix to start trouble there.

So please consider the source and what they are trying to do with all the accusations flying around.

124 MirandaRights February 11, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Moe had to go on television to make sure that everyone was aware that HKS was lying and had done many things he didn’t take responsibility for. As Moe said he was walking around acting all innocent when he is far from it. The best way to squelch a cover-up is to expose it to the light of day. Just ask QV.

125 Windi February 11, 2008 at 1:11 AM

QV
Yes we understand thoroughly.

126 Tropicana February 11, 2008 at 1:15 AM

Thank you QV for weighing in. I can’t imagine the position you are now in. Keep strong and this too will pass. Your epilogue surely must cause people to take a second look at what’s been going on behind the scenes. If a man is so innocent why go to the lengths he employed to discredit others? Makes no sense.

127 QV February 11, 2008 at 1:20 AM

Thank you. Cool heads will prevail and so will the truth.

128 pza February 11, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Amen, QV.

Thank you for sharing this journey and for bringing this out in the open. I realize it’s not been an easy one for you, but I have faith as I think you do too that it will not have been for naught, and only good will/has come out of this ordeal.
I hope you take solace in the fact that you stand for Truth and Justice, and for that, you can never be wrong.
:)

129 Matilda February 11, 2008 at 1:41 AM

Getting back to the nannies, will they suddenly reappear when Howard needs them for his libel case against Rita? If not, Howard won’t have a chance in heck of winning. If so, I think it becomes very clear that they’ve been paid to make themselves scarce for the inquest. I sure hope someone is looking for a money trail, because I have no doubt there’s one that leads from Howard to a third party, and then to the nannies.

130 pza February 11, 2008 at 2:02 AM

Yes, it sure seems like the M O of this bunch is blackmail and/or bribery, and if those fail, sue and threaten.

131 QV February 11, 2008 at 2:09 AM

Sorry about all the comments that got caught in the spam folder. They are posted now.

132 pza February 11, 2008 at 2:20 AM

Hopefully, Judge Chin’s “Request For International Judicial Assistance” will help flush out those witnesses who have conveniently gone ‘missing’.

http://annanicoleandhowardkstern.com/2008/02/judge-chin-requests-international-judicial-assistance/

133 Lucy February 11, 2008 at 2:52 AM

Matilda, I don’t think they should be able to pick and choose when they want to testify and when they don’t, do you? If they choose not to testify, so be it, they don’t testify now or later.

134 Carole February 11, 2008 at 3:03 AM

All I know is that the judge said they were important over Wayne Munroe’s protest regarding their testimony, and now no one can find them, and last I heard, even Liz Thompson is missing. We have a nurse who documented HKS left that hosital around 2 and didn’t come back until 4, and she is missing. Ray I’m dumbfounded over and suspect he has been bribed or blackmailed into not testifying….but if that were the case what is he doing as a director with Larry and Howard. There is something rotten in the state of Stern.

135 Lucy February 11, 2008 at 3:13 AM

It does seem a little odd that only people whose testimony could possibly harm their cases are MIA.

136 QV February 11, 2008 at 3:27 AM

Uh Oh, I am going to answer a couple of questions. If you would please go to the email page and see what I wrote about the edits at the very bottom.

AND I want to make one thing clear again. I never said that Rose was involved in child porn. I wrote that her site, atruerose linked to a site that had a link to bdsm games for children.

And why do I have these emails? Because my site and my chat room and the registered members were being used for all the mentioned activities. I had every right to know this. (*Edited to add…) but I was not informed until a couple of months after the controversy.

Also, I got really tired of seeing Art Harris writings about the “internet smear campaign against HKS”, when the same thing was going on here. By the time I started writing about it. HKS had said in a deposition that he had no knowledge of anything concerning the internet. Well, sorry, that is not true.

The rest, I have already written about. I stand by what I have written and I am not going to go over it again.
Respectfully yours,
QV

137 Mo February 11, 2008 at 3:28 AM

I admire your courage and level head (in spite of all the drama) QV.

Thanks for sharing the Truth with us cause Lord knows, that’s been far and very few between.

138 Mo February 11, 2008 at 3:31 AM

I just read you previous post, QV. And what I have to say is, “YOU GO, QV!!!!!” Bravo!

139 Lucy February 11, 2008 at 3:47 AM

QV, I believe that when one doesn’t like the message they try to shoot the messenger. DUCK!!

Many of us are well acquainted with the deflect tactic. I believe it is still alive and well.

140 SuSu February 11, 2008 at 4:16 AM

Was Mrs.Marple the person with Virgie at the court hearing. Is she Einstein? Was Turbo the other paid blogger that was going to attend the Inquest?

141 Matilda February 11, 2008 at 4:16 AM

The deflect tactic? Is that like when someone brings up that Howard lied on the stand in Florida about the drugs being in his name, some Sternie pipes in with a catty comment about where Virgie ate dinner or what clothes she was wearing?

I’ve been reading the HOH board – those people are NUTS! They’re totally consumed with irrational hatred of a woman they never met. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so creepy.

142 Exhibit "A" February 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM

SuSu Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Was Mrs.Marple the person with Virgie at the court hearing. Is she Einstein? Was Turbo the other paid blogger that was going to attend the Inquest?

—————

No, Mrs. Marple is not Einstein.
Don’t know who Turbo is.

143 Exhibit "A" February 11, 2008 at 7:24 AM

Matilda Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:16 am
The deflect tactic? Is that like when someone brings up that Howard lied on the stand in Florida about the drugs being in his name, some Sternie pipes in with a catty comment about where Virgie ate dinner or what clothes she was wearing?

I’ve been reading the HOH board – those people are NUTS! They’re totally consumed with irrational hatred of a woman they never met. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so creepy.

————-

What is the HOH board?

144 dying for the truth February 11, 2008 at 7:25 AM

Oh The Tangled Webs We Weave when we practice to deceive….
Thank you for your honesty, QV. Stay strong & true we are behind you.

I wish the Bahamas would request help like New York is…

145 BamaCat February 11, 2008 at 7:41 AM

Matilda,
If you don’t mind me asking…what is this HOH board everyone keeps mentioning?
Just curious.
Thanks in advance.

146 BamaCat February 11, 2008 at 7:43 AM

LOL Guess I am not the only one. LOL

147 Mo February 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM

BamaCat- I believe HOH is another ANS site or forum. I don’t have a link though.

148 pza February 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM

BamaCat,

The “HOH” board is

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/

The letters H O H are the initials of the administrator’s nic.

She has an Anna Nicole forum, but she recently made it available only to registered members who are in good standing.

149 BamaCat February 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM

Pza,
Thanks, I just thought it might be somewhere important. LOL
Everyone one mentions it so often.
Appreciate the info.
Cat

150 BamaCat February 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

MO,
Thanks to you as well. *wink*

151 Carole February 11, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Matilda says
I’ve been reading the HOH board – those people are NUTS! They’re totally consumed with irrational hatred of a woman they never met. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so creepy.
——————–
It’s nice to know others see it too. They’re like starving dogs with one little bone. Very unbalanced and scary

152 Carole February 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM

SuSu Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Was Mrs.Marple the person with Virgie at the court hearing. Is she Einstein? Was Turbo the other paid blogger that was going to attend the Inquest?

__________________
Turbo would have loved to have been there, I’m sure!

153 Mo February 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Carole Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 11:35 am

Matilda says
I’ve been reading the HOH board – those people are NUTS! They’re totally consumed with irrational hatred of a woman they never met. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so creepy.
——————–
It’s nice to know others see it too. They’re like starving dogs with one little bone. Very unbalanced and scary
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don’t routinely check any other site than QV’s or TMZ, though I can go for days without ever going. The nutjobs have been there for days, if not weeks/months.

I’ve a few questions: Why is it when damning evidence is revealed about stern (never mind his blogging cohorts), the boards seem to go get even nastier and vicious? Is there a co-relation? Are the angry vile comments a shameful and knee jerk reaction to the truth being revealed? Is it the fear of letting go of what’s been “known”? (Revelation that stern’s lied in a deposition AS WELL AS under oath. The fact that Moe seems to be speaking more truthfully than in the past.) Will the boards implode after Moe’s next interview with Tony Potts is aired?

I believe humans are run by two emotions: Love and Fear.

Wonder which emotion stern is running on?

154 Anonymous February 11, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Matilda says
I’ve been reading the HOH board – those people are NUTS! They’re totally consumed with irrational hatred of a woman they never met. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so creepy.
——————–

What is the HOH board

155 Anonymous February 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM

sorry I know now what the HOH is and I don’t care to go there

156 Anonymous February 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM

QV Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Everyone, please listen. There are people that are trying to start all kinds of trouble over what has been revealed. They are trying to stir up trouble in an attempt to minimize the damage to Howard by making things up or blowing things out of proportion

I am not talking about the conversation here but everywhere.

To give you an answer about the question asked here, I will say nothing. Nothing! Because anything that I would say one way or the other will just cause more controversy.

And I will not answer the stupid questions that the psychopath on TMZ is trying to start trouble with.

Nor will I respond to the other nut case that got sent over to Topix to start trouble there.

So please consider the source and what they are trying to do with all the accusations flying around.
—-

I love your answer. You do not have to defend yourself as what is written in the email and the above is the answer. Very good QV. I really admire you for this. They are trying to start fights. The truth has been revealed. Let it stand on it.

157 freida February 11, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Dear QV,
What has happened to Jane?
Wonder if her MIA has anything to do with the writer’s strike.
We may not always agree, but I do know talent when I see it or read it.
No disrespect to you, of course…
(gee that sounds familiar)

158 ThankYouMOe February 11, 2008 at 5:59 PM

glenna Says:
February 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Moe lacks integrity. Integrity goes to LE and stays off of entertainment TV. One looses there integrity when they think just because someone dies that gossiping about them on TV is OKay. If Moe really cared and if Moe really had pertinent info, then Potts is not the man to go to. If he has given this info to the authorities then his job is done and he needs to shutup.
==========

Big Moe is suffering guilt and knows what happened to Anna. It has been told to the FBI and is being taken care of. there are people that have done wrong and lied and their heart cannot stand the guilt within them. Moe is speaking with his heart now. Not lying for Howard like he did before. He said were threatening him and TAZ to keep quite. He knows he can take care of himself now. Moe is doing the pure thing now for him to be able to live. Guilt will destroy almost everyone unless they are so corrupt that their heart is hard.

159 Matilda February 11, 2008 at 6:46 PM

There sure seem to be a lot of people claiming to be threatened by Howard or his goon. Let’s see, there’s:

Anna’s half (step?) brother
GBT
The nannies
Wilma V
Moe and Taz
Ray M
Daniel, according to Harding

Anyone else? It’s a bit difficult to believe that these people all got together over tea and conspired to make up similar stories, doesn’t it? But then again, that list is very short in comparison to the list of people who are out to get Howard because they have an “Axe to grind”.

I agree that Moe was lying his tail off for Howard at first. I think he’s realized since that his loyalty was completely misplaced. I’m glad he wised up.

160 anony mouse February 11, 2008 at 7:19 PM

The people at the inquest were a daughter or granddaughter of Norman Rockwell’s and her daughter. Einy and Kerry did not attend the inquest. The Rockwell descendants met Virgie and liked her and they live in the Bahamas so they went to the inquest with her to give her support. Harris and Bain were completely off base on this one.

161 freida February 11, 2008 at 7:24 PM

This place is FUBAR

no punctuation needed

162 Mrs Marple February 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM

QV:

I think I have been involved in all of this from the beginning. Honestly, I still keep asking myself how on earth I ever got so embroiled in such a mess! But, honestly, I know of NO conspiracy on the part of any of the “Biddies.” Is there something someone knows that I don’t know?

I have talked to Wilma on the phone and she never asked me to do anything in anyway ever. When I was sick she had sent me the most beautiful arrangement of Irises that I have ever seen.How she got my address I do not know but a lot of people know my address and phone number. I guess I am lucky that the folks I shared my private information with are good people.

I started blogging for the very first time in my life when I became concerned for the baby. I became convinced that HKS murdered Daniel and Anna when Anna died in the exact same way that Daniel had died. Then Dr. Eroshevich said that she was afraid that HKS was suicidal, I decided that I needed to make absolutely sure that HKS was indeed guilty before I started calling him a murderer. I researched every piece of evidence that I could find. I studied every inch of Anna’s autopsy report; which I must say is about the most sloppy piece of work I have seen that has been released by a public servant in my life. I became convinced that HKS did indeed murder Anna. I am convinced that he murdered Daniel, also. I have been very vocal in my believes as I feel I have a right to be.

If someone knows something that the Biddies have done I really wish that they would tell me and show me evidence of this. I just don’t believe that any of us had any thing to do with any kind of conspiracy at all.

I have grown to love and trust the folks that were banned. I was very leery at first but these folks are the most class act kind of people that I have ever met. They dot the country from coast to coast and are very caring, intelligent, honorable folks. I feel that I have been blessed by the opportunity to get to know these people. This blogging experience has been a challenge at times but in the end I believe it has been much more of a blessing because of the people that I have grown to know. QV, I believe that you are one of thsoe people that I can hold in high regard and I am so pleased that I have had the opportunity to converse with you in this medium.

Again, I hope that I do not start some kind of “Sternoid” attack, but, if I do please just delete this post. I am really just at a loss to understand how all of this chaos involving bloggers ever happened. It makes me very sad because I know that a lot of people have been hurt by this experience.

163 Carole February 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Wow! Harlett must have sprayed for bugs….looks like they’ve left her place in droves and have infested everywhere else! Yikes!

164 freida February 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM

I came here because…

Real simple…

A man was being called a murderer on TV.

Without a trial, without evident, without anything, just a bunch of ‘spin doctors’ on TV.

I thought they knew…

So I started searching for what ‘they knew’ and weren’t telling us…’the brainwashed public.’

So far I haven’t found it.

But I found ‘this place’ and I found a ‘few others’…

And I’ve had a lot of fun, and found some guts…and pain…

And, now I wonder about China and the Far East and the Middle East which is nearer…or farther?

And I sure do wonder what the F?

Freida

165 MirandaRights February 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Moe has now verified that Larry Birkhead is gay. He said Anna told him. Larry has even said that Anna proposed to him and he turned her down on several occasions.

This was on Access Hollywood.

166 ThankYouMOe February 11, 2008 at 11:47 PM

MirandaRights Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Moe has now verified that Larry Birkhead is gay. He said Anna told him. Larry has even said that Anna proposed to him and he turned her down on several occasions.

This was on Access Hollywood.
===

why did Larry lie. Most would have understood it anyway. Now he is know as a liar.

167 Anonymous February 12, 2008 at 1:10 AM

0h Moe does’nt lie? you would have made my day, if it was’nt so bad.

168 Carole February 12, 2008 at 1:15 AM

What else is going to jump out of the closet? Moe is finally talking. I have a feeling Howard shouldn’t have tried say Moe tried to sell the pictures of a dead Daniel. And I got to thinking, and QV I apologize in advance if this is a violation of your TOS, and I state for Mr. Wood that this is purely my speculation based on known actions of Howard. Again, I got to thinking…that Howard took pictures almost as much as Larry. He certainly took pictures of anything Anna. We know he took pictures of Anna holding a dead Daniel….and I’m sitting here wondering…are there pictures somewhere of a deceased Anna? Did he not say that “Moe” took a camera from the HRH and has not returned it? What if for once, Howard is telling the truth? What was on that camera? Just speculating here.

169 Lucy February 12, 2008 at 1:20 AM

I think that Larry was probably afraid of his father’s reaction if he came out. As we saw, that was one intimidating old fellow. I know that “I” wouldn’t have wanted to rub him the wrong way. Being gay is no big deal to most of us but it may have been a huge deal to Mr B.

170 Get Over it February 12, 2008 at 1:39 AM

SuSu Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Was Mrs.Marple the person with Virgie at the court hearing. Is she Einstein? Was Turbo the other paid blogger that was going to attend the Inquest?

Please get over it anyone can go to the inquest it is an open court house. Go yourself if you want to. The more Americans there the better for Daniel.

171 AlamoGirl February 12, 2008 at 1:48 AM

Lyndarella got subpoenaed haha…from McCabe but to be put off till after the inquest..

172 Lucy February 12, 2008 at 1:59 AM

Are there paid bloggers? I’ve never heard of any.

173 Anonymous February 12, 2008 at 3:29 AM

I read the emails, and I am still lost, what is the point?? I was waiting for some real evidence that proof beyond doubt that Howard is guilty of SOMETHING. Will there be anymore chapters that will shed light? Or was this ALL?? Almost like Rose’s bomb? The bomb was more interesting, or perhaps QV has something hard evidence and will only reveal it later? If this was all, then oh gosh, where do we go from here?

174 Anne February 12, 2008 at 3:36 AM

AnnAnne Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:00 am

OK folks.

This will be my first and last post here. This is Ann from HOH. The Anne here is not me, so give the woman a break. If you want to insult me you can pm me at HOH. Since Carole and missmarple have been banned from HOH, I can only assume that one of your buds, chambord or lucy are copying my posts which BTW is against copyright laws.

So no other innocent person gets the brunt of your wrath, the only nics I’ve used on public boards are Ann, AnnAnne, ItsOnlyMe, and OnlyTruth.

As usual you have come to the wrong conclusion which is indicative of your always erroneous logic.

See you on HOH, except for those of you who have already been banned for being your obnoxious selves.

Have a nice night.

Ann
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Ann…… Thank you for your attempt at trying to explain but there is no reasoning with them! I think they just enjoy the attack and the term “innocent” is like a foreign word that they do not, or will not, make any attempt at trying to understand. I can clearly see why some of them have been banned. BTW, I have always loved my name and will continue to use the only name I have ever had (ANNE) and no other. What/where is HOH?

175 Whack A Mole February 12, 2008 at 3:37 AM

Does anyone think Krista Barth’s appearance at the anniversary graveside service looked weird? They get out of the same car, but she’s walking 20 feet behind Howard? And a backless cocktail dress for a graveside service? Why not a black pants suit or something? And then I wondered why Barth would be at Dr. E’s house at 6:00 am on the day of the warrant service. So is there any chance there is something going on there? Could Howard and Krista Barth be involved? Why would she end up at the grave service when Howard is so broke that his Mommy and Daddy are supporting him? Anyone else find that just a tad strange??????????

176 Joycethomas February 12, 2008 at 3:51 AM

Wack: Do you know for a fact that was Krista 20 feet behind HKS at memorial? Some said they thought it may have been ANS’ friend JJ?

This is first I’ve heard Barth was at the doctor’s house at 6am when warrants served. Do you have a link to anything that verifies Barth was there? I thought she was married with kids.

177 Lucy February 12, 2008 at 3:55 AM

W-A-M, everythig about this mess seems a tad strange to me. Whoever that woman was with Howard, he didn’t seem to want to acknowledge her, did he? He left her in his dust once they cleared that car.

178 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 3:56 AM

Wow – Ann and Anne – one with a PHD and one with a MASTERS. Same supercilious style of little susbstance.

Again, Ann/Anne – you can fool some of the people all of the time but you can not fool most of us ANY of the time.

Just like Howard, you go to great lengths to distort, distract and recreate a reality that exists only in your feeble little mind. Pity that Rosie has created Romantics so short on substance but so long on surpercilious pontificating ramblings! Run along Ann/Anne, Rosie needs you back at Camp Delusion. . Your campaign to knock out a grieving grandmother and hold her responsible for the harm caused by the darkness that is Stern has failed miserably.

Truth has a long memory Ann/Anne and it will not go gently into the good night no matter how fast and furious your little fingers type out nonsensical garbage you try vainly to present as “just the facts.”

We get you Anne/Ann as easily as we get the darkness that is Stern.

179 Whack A Mole February 12, 2008 at 4:10 AM

Joycethomas Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 3:51 am

Wack: Do you know for a fact that was Krista 20 feet behind HKS at memorial? Some said they thought it may have been ANS’ friend JJ?

Look at the video on TMZ. They came in the same car….yet she’s walking wayyyyy behind him. Like they don’t want to be seen as being “together”. The only thing you could question was the number of feet in my post? Now that’s just odd….

180 Whack A Mole February 12, 2008 at 4:12 AM

Lucy Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 3:55 am

W-A-M, everythig about this mess seems a tad strange to me. Whoever that woman was with Howard, he didn’t seem to want to acknowledge her, did he? He left her in his dust once they cleared that car.

And when was the last time your lawyer popped by at 6:00 am? Could she have been there all night?

181 Whack A Mole February 12, 2008 at 4:27 AM

Joycethomas Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 3:51 am

Wack: Do you know for a fact that was Krista 20 feet behind HKS at memorial? Some said they thought it may have been ANS’ friend JJ?

This is first I’ve heard Barth was at the doctor’s house at 6am when warrants served. Do you have a link to anything that verifies Barth was there? I thought she was married with kids.

I saw it on two of the CA news stations…it’s not mentioned on the TMZ report there. I’d have to google it to find the links….

182 Anne February 12, 2008 at 4:44 AM

missmarple…… I think you might be happier if you tried not to hate someone just because they are educated and have an opinion different from yours.

183 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 5:05 AM

Ann/Anne: Hate is an energy that I do not allow into my life. I do not “hate” any one including the darkness that is Stern. In fact, it is very interesting that the only people that use that word are those that are drawn to and support such darkness. Go figure.

“Hate” and wasted educations seem to be the common factors. Fabricating credentials, facts and negative energy seems to be all that team darkness has managed to accomplish this past year. So many stories, so little credibility!

184 Mrs Marple February 12, 2008 at 5:10 AM

missmarple Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 3:56 am

Wow – Ann and Anne – one with a PHD and one with a MASTERS. Same supercilious style of little susbstance.

Again, Ann/Anne – you can fool some of the people all of the time but you can not fool most of us ANY of the time.

Just like Howard, you go to great lengths to distort, distract and recreate a reality that exists only in your feeble little mind. Pity that Rosie has created Romantics so short on substance but so long on surpercilious pontificating ramblings! Run along Ann/Anne, Rosie needs you back at Camp Delusion. . Your campaign to knock out a grieving grandmother and hold her responsible for the harm caused by the darkness that is Stern has failed miserably.

Truth has a long memory Ann/Anne and it will not go gently into the good night no matter how fast and furious your little fingers type out nonsensical garbage you try vainly to present as “just the facts.”

We get you Anne/Ann as easily as we get the darkness that is Stern.
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Miss Marple: I enjoyed you post! LOL! I don’t know Ann/Anne but you have certainly painted a vivid picture of her. I appreciate the fact that you have called her out especially if she attacks Virgie. I for one have grown tired of people attacking her. What would anyone think they are gaining by attacking her? What is the purpose of attacking G. Ben Thompson or Ford Shelley? I believe they missed Moe, I wonder what kept them from attacking Moe?

185 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 5:48 AM

Hi Mrs. Marple – I have been enjoying your posts as well.

I will never understand the lack of empathy shown toward Mrs. Arthur by team darkness.

They so readily forgive and excuse the enabler, squatter and leech every abominable act he has perpetrated against Anna and her family for 13 years and yet are unable or unwilling to offer an ounce of compassion or empathy toward a grieving mother and grandmother. It defies all logic and all decency. They bring a whole new meaning to the term “Twisted Sisters”

Thankfully, the layers are starting to peel away the lies and the distortions that Mrs. Arthur has been held hostage to this past year. Hopefully with the help of QV, Moe and those that are privy to the real facts and truth of this debacle Mrs. Arthur will finally realize the justice that she is seeking. Perhaps then, true healing can begin for this poor woman!

Despite the frenzied rantings of Rosie and the Romantics, I will remain a strong and vocal advocate for Mrs. Arthur until such time as justice is served and healing begins!

186 Matilda February 12, 2008 at 8:12 AM

Excellent post, missmarple, and very well written. A bought and paid for PHD can’t compete with inherent intelligence, logic, and common sense.

I get such a kick out of the “but Virgie” defense. It only proves to me that even Howard’s most avid and rabid fans can’t come up with reasonable explanations for his actions. Deflect, Distort, Derail and Deny – that seems to be the Sternie motto.

187 MirandaRights February 12, 2008 at 8:19 AM

Poor old Ann /Anne / Cass/ Ava etc, posting to herself again.

Why is it all important to her that she was caught out? We don’t care how many boards she plagues. The minute she starts to type, we know it’s her because she is so repetitious, dogmatic and vain and certainly not the type to go to a board where she ‘says’ she doesn’t post and then post to ‘protect’ a poster she never heard of? She only thinks that much of herself and is too thick to realise how transparent she is.

It’s just so silly that she needs to hide behind a unconvincing facade. She talks of ‘banning’ like it was a crime of some sort and talks about murder as if it were a forum infraction !

188 MirandaRights February 12, 2008 at 8:33 AM

From the minute Anna was pronounced dead, most of the world thought that something wasn’t kosher with HKS’s presence twice in a row at sudden deaths.

You’d have to an imbecile to NOT smell a RAT.

That’s why Bonnie Stern said they were so worried about the private investigator and the inquest. BS and colleagues knew the two deaths were highly suspicious and it scared them. Thus their underhanded ploys.

When a poster comes here and pretends that only Anna Nicole’s mother ever suspected anything was wrong, they are playing the fool for a family who wouldn’t give them the time of day unless they groveled and condoned cold-blooded murder.

189 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Thank you Matilda.

Terrific posting Miranda!

“When a poster comes here and pretends that only Anna Nicole’s mother ever suspected anything was wrong, they are playing the fool for a family who wouldn’t give them the time of day unless they groveled and condoned cold-blooded murder.”

Gotta Love It! Would be comical if it wasn’t so pitiful. The audacity of stupidity is alive and well over at Camp Delusion among Rosie and the Romantics!

190 Carole February 12, 2008 at 11:32 AM

MirandaRights Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Poor old Ann /Anne / Cass/ Ava etc, posting to herself again.

Why is it all important to her that she was caught out? We don’t care how many boards she plagues. The minute she starts to type, we know it’s her because she is so repetitious, dogmatic and vain and certainly not the type to go to a board where she ’says’ she doesn’t post and then post to ‘protect’ a poster she never heard of? She only thinks that much of herself and is too thick to realise how transparent she is.

It’s just so silly that she needs to hide behind a unconvincing facade. She talks of ‘banning’ like it was a crime of some sort and talks about murder as if it were a forum infraction !

*************************

I “get” her also. Great post and still think she’s one of Bonnie’s Babies.

191 Carole February 12, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Miss Marple, I do so love it when you post, and you don’t do it nearly enough!

192 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Hi Carole – thanks.

Always a pleasure posting with you. I have so much respect and admiration for QV and her determination to speak her own truth in her own way and on her own terms.

Looks like another miscalculation on the part of team darkness!

Howard wasn’t counting on John O’Quinn and Rosie certainly was not counting on QV having a conscience that would not allow her to remain silent simply because the little man and his sister decreed it!

Kudos to QV for having the fortitude to stand up to team darkness and let light shine on the ugliness they surround themselves with on a daily basis. Rosie and the Romantics should pay heed to that old tune that Mrs. Arthur is humming in their ear “Our Day Will Come” and none too soon.

There is no fool like a fool that continues to foolishly try to fool those that refuse to be fooled! Foolish little man and his foolish little followers have not fooled us in the least as they continue to fool only themselves! And that Ann/Anne is a simple FACT!

193 Mary February 12, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Whack A Mole Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 3:37 am
Does anyone think Krista Barth’s appearance at the anniversary graveside service looked weird? They get out of the same car, but she’s walking 20 feet behind Howard? And a backless cocktail dress for a graveside service? Why not a black pants suit or something? And then I wondered why Barth would be at Dr. E’s house at 6:00 am on the day of the warrant service. So is there any chance there is something going on there? Could Howard and Krista Barth be involved? Why would she end up at the grave service when Howard is so broke that his Mommy and Daddy are supporting him? Anyone else find that just a tad strange??????????

Whack,
I don’t know if that was Barth or not at grace service with Howard, But I have heard she was at Dr. E.’s the morning the warrents were served. I was thinking maybe there is a certain DA in Cali who tipped off ppl and that was why Howard and Barth were there.

194 missmarple February 12, 2008 at 2:00 PM

I think you may well be right Mary……the tentacles of deception run deep but my money is on the long arm of justice and the patience of truth to get it right “at the end of the day”

195 AnnAnne February 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM

To Ann

To answer your question HOH is the administrator at the board I post on. It’s a board that is devoted to help find missing adults and children. There is an Anna forum there but you have to join to see that particular board due to some trouble makers. I highly recommend it. the address is:

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/index.php

196 Margie February 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM

I was going to ask a few questions. But from what I read it seems as if you don’t want to answer right now.
I’m still confused as to why you would go from supporting Howard, and organizing the research, to considering him a killer, based on what you’ve said. To me, someone who wasn’t here during all of this, it seems as if you were upset for not being ‘top dog’, and that’s why you ‘changed teams’ so to speak. I really can’t believe that based solely on Howard saying he had no info regarding bloggers in court, that you would change your mind so drastically and turn on Howard and many of your former friends.
Ah, you know, I really shouldn’t even be here, I’m just going to get attacked and ridiculed for my opinion. I may as well throw out the fact that I don’t see what diff. it makes if Rose and her husband are into BDSM. I am about as ‘religious’ as they come, and I still don’t see the problem or what impact it would have had. No one would have even known there was research, etc., if YOU wouldn’t have said something, so what did it matter?
Well, wasting my time.
Anonymous: Please thank your nephew for his service. I will pray that Heavenly Father watches over him and that his mission is successful and educational.

197 QV February 12, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Margie Says:
February 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pm e
I was going to ask a few questions. But from what I read it seems as if you don’t want to answer right now.
I’m still confused as to why you would go from supporting Howard, and organizing the research, to considering him a killer, based on what you’ve said.
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Margie, I have NEVER said that Howard is a killer.
The rest, I have no desire to converse with you. I have been sent some of your posts about me. Which, you being a new comer to this story makes what you say presumptive and ridiculous.

198 Matilda February 12, 2008 at 5:48 PM

AnnAnnAnneAnne said she was going to make one post and go away. Why did she lie?

199 Margie February 12, 2008 at 5:52 PM

I understand. Thank you for responding though. I may not have been there, but I do trust the people, partic. one person, who I’ve known for a very long time. From what she’s told me, and what you’ve written, I feel my posts elsewhere have been fair. But, again, I do thank you for responding.

200 AnnAnne February 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I didn’t lie. I changed my mind. I answered Anne’s question. Now I’ll answer yours. I really don’t care if people want to come to a board that is against Howard and vent about him. That’s your perrogative. I personally rather discuss Anna’s story on a forum where both sides are welcome and some civility is maintained. That’s my perrogative. If Anne wants to continue here, that’s her choice. I hope she will come to HOH’s site.

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