What a year this has been. One that could go down in history as one of the most complicated life and death stories of our generation. I blame it on the press. And greed. Without it, we would probably not all be here.
We greeted a beautiful baby girl only to have her happy and adoring brother Daniel die three days after her birth. Then its almost as if Anna Nicole died of a broken heart. It is said that she wanted to stay for Dannielynn but worried about Daniels soul being lost and lonely. Then, no matter how it came about, God made the decision for her.
I was driving down the road when I heard. Where were you? How did you feel? Why did you come here? How much longer will you stay? There is not much more to say or do. Just comments and arguing when court papers are published and hearings come and go. And watching Dannielynn grow. Where would we be now if they both would have lived? If they had lived we wouldn’t be……
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What about Hef?
Of course, he was only an employer once upon a time.
Now what?
He hired her, he made her, he ‘enabled’ her…
Well wasn’t he the first ‘link’ to this ‘thread?’
Gosh, of course we cannot blame the man…she was beautiful.
Without makeup and airbrushing and enhancements.
Hefner and Marshall, what a ‘team.’
Yet, it’s up to mothers to protect their children, right?
Then, once they become adults…
it’s up to them.
‘GUESS’ that’s enough said…or
is it a brandname?
I’m trying to behave.
Not really, LOL.
How on earth do Howie Sue supporters uphold such a creature (sorry, I could not put human or man) that lied about being the father of a baby that he so boldly tried to abort while her mother was carrying her?
I am referring to the clown tape while Anna was 8 1/2 months pregnant & very obviously high as a kite while Howard was almost having an orgasm saying “this tape is going to be worth money”.
THAT is IMO the CLOSEST he has ever came to having sex w/ Anna.
Out of Howard’s own mouth on the stand in FL court he said Daniel was like a BROTHER to him.
If you loved the mother wouldn’t that make him your SON? Not BROTHER?
Howard KNEW Dannielynn was NOT his child.
If he had thought there was even the slightest chance he was the real daddy, he would have ran his butt to the nearest DNA center to prove to the world he had finally managed to have sex w/ Anna.
I feel absolutely 100% anger at HK$.
Not one 1/1000 of an ounce of sympathy for him or Larry nor any of their associates or family.
I save my sympathy for the REAL person it belongs to…a MOTHER & GRANDMOTHER.
Virgie has been raked over the coals over & over so many times & has managed to maintain her true feelings & fight for her grandson, daughter & grand-daughter.
All because she is an uneducated, poor hillbilly??
THOSE ARE NOT MY WORDS I AM JUST REPEATING WHAT STERNIES CALL HER!!
IF like you people claim that Anna was a product of HER raisings & mistreated by her parents (which is NOT the case) why doesn’t someone pity Virgie because heaven only knows what her childhood was like.
Even IF the parenting were to blame I am sorry but I do not think that would be Anna’s excuse in life.
I know many people who came from worse & rose ABOVE what hand they were dealt in life.
I ask you, what is Howard’s excuse for how his life has turned out?
He is almost 40 years old & still lives off Mommy & Daddy (which I do NOT believe).
The jerk has NEVER had a job.
He lived off of Anna for almost 10 years.
Anna was a single mother trying to raise her son.
He certainly wasn’t her attorney as he claimed or her legal stuff would not be in such a mess today.
Look at all of her unpaid bills & taxes that are left for her estate to pay.
We know HK$ controlled the purse strings.
I watched her TV show at times.
So if he obviously wasn’t an attorney then what the hell was he?
A deadbeat, lowlife living off a single, uneducated hillbilly???!!!
If Howard loved Anna so very much like some of you choose to believe then why had his family not came to Daniel’s funeral?
Why had they never even met Dannielynn until Anna’s death?
This was the supposed “love of his life”.
No, I have never lost a child (neither has Howard).
But I have lost two aunts & 2 cousins from a drunk driver.
I certainly don’t support the drunk driver.
Nor do I hold any sympathy for him or his family.
Howard has told so many lies on the stand, in interviews & then later proof comes out that he lied but yet some of you STILL believe him.
Regarding all of this BS about Virgie trying to profit from her family members…
Well, for starters at least they were HER family members not someone she latched onto like a dog tick & sucked the life right out of them.
She has sold a shoebox full of pictures for $5,000.000 & got a free plane trip to the Bahamas.
That is a mere drop in the bucket compared to what Howard & Larry have made off of the mess.
Those losers have made MILLIONS & continue to do so.
I feel sorry for Dannielynn as that child will always have to support those two lowlifes.
I have no PHD.
I do however have GOCS.
GOOD OLD COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!!!
I do not believe in fairy tales or science fiction.
I tend to lean towards real life & facts myself.
And no need to pray for me.
Save your prayers for Howard he is going to need all the prayers he can get because he has to spend the rest of his miserable life knowing what he has done.
Anna Nicole had that “je ne sais quoi” very few woman possess. Marilyn Monroe had it, Dolly Parton has it too. They appeal to men for their sexuality, yet they do not pose a threat as so many blatently “sexy” woman do” because they project an intense vulnerability.
I first came to this site as a Howard supporter. He was- at the time- being vilified by the media.
Now, I check in every so often.
Nice people here- as I presume was the case w/ the v. troubled Anna Nicole.
Great post Miss Marple….tell it like it is!
NOTE TO SELF: ALWAYS READ BEFORE POSTING.
QV- COULD YOU CHANGE THAT FIRST LINE FROM
“They appeal to me for their sexuality,” TO THEY APPEAL TO…MEN! THAT “N” MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD! LOL.
“je ne sais quoi”
Translated…
Dumb as shi!?
I do not know what?
Or is that a statement?
Anyway, at least Howard tried to
give her daughter some hope…
with his eulogy.
I think.
Once upon a time I came here to dream.
Actually I came here looking for facts and the truth.
All because an old, drunk lawyer was on television calling someone a murderer…
Doesn’t matter that a mother was, too.
Someone needs to remember ‘Freedom of Speech’ doesn’t give you the right.
I’m pissed off.
I’m pissed at the Media, and the Networks, and the Internet, and those that are supposed to be ‘smarter’ than us.
I’m pissed off, that a ‘career woman’ had a child.
I’m pissed off at the ‘camera man,’ too.
And, I’m pissed off at myself for watching, and contributing to all of this.
Yet, mostly I’m just pissed.
I sure would like to blame someone else.
This if for Swampwater, missmarple and Tropicana…….
Tropicana, you said……. “You must be totally invested in this to take on Anna’s name as your own.
My name is ANNE – NOT ANNIE, NOT ANNA or any other name that begins with an “A”! My real name is ANNETTE but I have been called ANNE all my life beginning the day I was born by my parents and I have no desire, nor have I ever, posted in any other name except my own, which is ANNE.
missmarple, you said …… “Anne – You can fool some of the people some of the time – but you can not fool most of us any of the time –
From your post over at HOH:
“I have a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling, worked 2 years in a mental health center as a program facilitator and caseworker in the aftercare and residential programs; courses in addiction; workshops in codependency; field experience in a halfway house for people with addictions; plus personal family experience with alcoholism and drug addictions”… You also said, “You try to control so many boards with your “professional” opinion and Rosiespeak”
Well, missmarple for your information I never made those comments. I do not post on Rose’s site, HOH (?) and I never have. I only post my comments on Art’s site, and QV’s site.
Swampwater…. You have it wrong as well. Your comments to me were incorrect since I have no idea what you are talking about and I did ask you to explain.
QV, thank you for allowing me (as a Howard supporter) to post my comments on your site – it is appreciated.
Anne – I believe you were distracted by the discussion of your credentials and forgot to answer the question Swampwater asked:
Anne, is this your professional opinion from years of counseling that Howie loved them? Which “Paid Media Interview” led you to this conclusion of all this heart felt love in the last year that you have been following this debacle? Just curious to see why a supposed professional counselor with a Masters degree to boot would base her conclusion on “Paid Media Interviews” of two people she has never counseled and met.
I’m wondering now, when will ET and Dr. Phil really get ‘into it.’
Down and dirty with the rest of the ‘easy money makers.’
Of course, they are making their money off us.
Hey, they got a ‘good’ education.
LOL.
Ann, Anne, or whatever you decide to call yourself today, you doth protest too much. Your denial of where you post holds no water. Your all over the place with your obsession of the Howie/Anna love fallacy. Are you busy taking your on line docterate degree this afternoon? Just for the record, I’m the Dean of Harvard . I shall use you for an example in the next class of the study of women who become possessed by men who are inclined to swing either way, and feel they are entitled to destroy their prey when they become such a burden to them. Some women due like the humilation and abuse, it seems to stimulate them.
Matilda Says:
February 9th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Anne – I believe you were distracted by the discussion of your credentials and forgot to answer the question Swampwater asked:
Matilda, here was Swampwater’s post to me …..
“Anne, is this your professional opinion from years of counseling that Howie loved them? Which “Paid Media Interview” led you to this conclusion of all this heart felt love in the last year that you have been following this debacle? Just curious to see why a supposed professional counselor with a Masters degree to boot would base her conclusion on “Paid Media Interviews” of two people she has never counseled and met”.
Matilda, here was my response to swampwater…….
“What are you talking about? I have never posted anything being “a supposed professional counselor with a Masters degree”
so I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain”.
To Matilda and a few others…..
You need to PAY ATTENTION and at least ATTEMPT to have correct information in your attacks. AGAIN, I HAVE NEVER MADE ANY COMMENTS about my “CREDENTIALS”. My name is ANNE. I beleive in, and support, Howard. I do not post anywhere other than Art and QV’s site. I stand behind what I think, believe, know and any comment that I make, however I can not debate you on comments that I have not made. Seems to me that a lot of you just want to argue and attack – very few of you make any sense and it is hopeless to debate with you about anything.
My goodness, some people are so touchy.
Of course you made a comment about your credentials. You corrected Swamp by saying you had a PHD rather than a Master’s degree. So the question is still valid.
Whether you’re the same Anne who posted her “credentials” on HOH’s board really doesn’t matter, you can still answer the question based on your own credentials.
However, if you prefer not to, that’s your right. I understand.
Article is up.
I watched The Life and Death of Anna Nicole Smith yesterday on E.
One thing that struck me and was very sad and brought a deeper sense of what Anna was feeling when Daniel died. Was a hand written note Anna wrote to Daniel and put on the front door of Horizons. It said in so many words Daniel you are always welcome here and the door is always unlocked. How sad is that? Could Anna have been feeling guilty for throwing him out? Or was it that Anna just didnt believe he was gone? Either way so sad.
Matilda
“The way he acts, you’d think he was actually a part of her life when she died, instead of someone who was given the boot almost a year before. If he hadn’t won the sperm lottery, we’d never even know his name and he wouldn’t be raking in millions pimping out his poor little girl.”
What would you be saying if he ignored the day? Its still About Anna and he is Danilynnes father.
Yes he was given the boot and we know why.
Speaking of Moe Has the woman (seen by security camera going into his room )ever been questioned by Police?
QV Says:
February 9th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Anyone watching Access Hollywood? Was that Krista Barth with Howard?
I thought it might be JJ Barrette
Anne Says:
February 9th, 2008 at 5:57 am
AlamoGirl…… Maybe Mr. Woods will give Moe an opportunity to explain.
I agree with you I think Moe is upset that things have been said and he now wants to paint a bad picture.
Mish says….. “I think Moe is upset that things have been said and he now wants to paint a bad picture.
Mish, I agree and if that is true that saddens me because I always liked Moe.
I am reporting that I posted a comment on Greta’s site using me REAL NAME (as always) which is ANNE. A post by ROBYN said I posted comments on RoseSpeaks and that I was hateful. I do not post on RoseSpeaks and I truly hope that I am not hateful. I have no intention of changing my name but I can only debate on the comments made by me and not someone else.
Matilda…. I responded to Swampwater by saying “that would be a PHD” assuming that someone who was a “professional counselor” would not only have a Master’s degree but a PHD. I do have a college degree but I have never and will never post my “credentials” on this site or any other site (any more than to say what I just said). Now, I am finished with this particular topic.
Sure looked like Barth to me. Seems like she and HKS are bff now. Especially since her firm is in the home of the new foundation that was supposed to be in honor of Daniel. Instead it’s not about Daniel at all but some vague ’causes’ ANS supposedly was involved in.
Aren’t foundations the latest popular way to hide income and evade taxes?
Sorry on my long post above I meant to say $5,000.00 I had one too many zeros after the decimal.
Where it said “She has sold a shoebox full of pictures for $5,000.000″
Mish Says:
February 9th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Speaking of Moe Has the woman (seen by security camera going into his room )ever been questioned by Police?
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Excellent question Mish! Other than her name, we know nothing about this woman. What was she doing there (I know, sometimes it’obvious, but sometimes it’s not) What time did she actually leave, and what did she see or hear?
You need to PAY ATTENTION and at least ATTEMPT to have correct information in your attacks. AGAIN, I HAVE NEVER MADE ANY COMMENTS about my “CREDENTIALS”. My name is ANNE. I beleive in, and support, Howard. I do not post anywhere other than Art and QV’s site. I stand behind what I think, believe, know and any comment that I make, however I can not debate you on comments that I have not made. Seems to me that a lot of you just want to argue and attack – very few of you make any sense and it is hopeless to debate with you about anything.
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Sorry AnnAnne, you just aren’t credible.
When I look at that picture of Anna in the Pink and Black dress…
Makes me think I should have taken up pole dancing.
It’s quite a good workout really!
That and belly dancing, too.
OK folks.
This will be my first and last post here. This is Ann from HOH. The Anne here is not me, so give the woman a break. If you want to insult me you can pm me at HOH. Since Carole and missmarple have been banned from HOH, I can only assume that one of your buds, chambord or lucy are copying my posts which BTW is against copyright laws.
So no other innocent person gets the brunt of your wrath, the only nics I’ve used on public boards are Ann, AnnAnne, ItsOnlyMe, and OnlyTruth.
As usual you have come to the wrong conclusion which is indicative of your always erroneous logic.
See you on HOH, except for those of you who have already been banned for being your obnoxious selves.
Have a nice night.
Ann
Whew – I’m glad she won’t be back. She’s not very nice, is she?
AnnAnne, you give yourself far too much importance. I personally don’t care who you are or where you post. You’re only important in your own little manufactured world. You’re rude and unpleasant, wherever you are. Me copying anything that you EVER say is the least of your worries, believe me.
Matilda, she’s one of those who gets terribly upset when anything is said that makes Howard look any worse than he already did, if that’s possible. If Howard is mentioned in anything but a good light, she’s also one who will whip out a Virgie bash in the blink of an eye.
Matilda, Ann/AnnAnne is someone who has said many times that the only person that isn’t lying and doesn’t have and ‘agenda’ (her favorite term) is Saint Howard. She’s also said that she was ‘well brought up’ and that those that disagree with her must not have been as ‘well brought up’ as she was. She has an enormous sense of superiority and has been on a mission from the get go to have any board that says anything negative about Howard shut down. The fact that she thinks folks are copying her posts is a testament to her sense of importance. As Lucy said, she’s rude and unpleasant.
I fail to see how bashing Virgie makes Howard look better. If it turned out that Virgie is Jack the Ripper reincarnated, does that change the fact that Howard’s drugs killed Anna? Does it change the fact that he attempted to steal another man’s child? Does it change the fact that he’s lied repeatedly under oath? Does it change the fact that he did nothing to help the alleged love of his life in the months following Daniel’s death?
I don’t think so.
I agree with every word, Matilda. Every time something unflattering is pointed out about Howard someone hops in with something that some else, anyone else, has said, done, worn, eaten, gone or whatever it takes to get the spotlight off the REAL guilty party.And of course the most frequently repeated story is Anna’s “abuse”. No one knows a thing about any abuse other than what we all saw and few believed, but so many stories have been manufactured that you would almost think they know what they’re talking about. Almost.
AnnAnne Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 4:00 am
OK folks.
This will be my first and last post here. This is Ann from HOH. The Anne here is not me, so give the woman a break. If you want to insult me you can pm me at HOH. Since Carole and missmarple have been banned from HOH, I can only assume that one of your buds, chambord or lucy are copying my posts which BTW is against copyright laws.
So no other innocent person gets the brunt of your wrath, the only nics I’ve used on public boards are Ann, AnnAnne, ItsOnlyMe, and OnlyTruth.
As usual you have come to the wrong conclusion which is indicative of your always erroneous logic.
See you on HOH, except for those of you who have already been banned for being your obnoxious selves.
Have a nice night.
Ann
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Ann…… Thank you for your attempt at trying to explain but there is no reasoning with them! I think they just enjoy the attack and the term “innocent” is like a foreign word that they do not, or will not, make any attempt at trying to understand. I can clearly see why some of them have been banned. BTW, I have always loved my name and will continue to use the only name I have ever had (ANNE) and no other. What/where is HOH?
“…the term “innocent” is like a foreign word that the do not, or will not, make any attempt to understand”
Are you talking about the Sternie’s totally irrational attacks on Virgie Arthur?
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