Review the latest legal documents and see what you think?
You Never Know What Will Happen Next
by QV on 04/11/2008
in Anna Nicole Smith, Art Harris, Bald Truth, Bloggers for Anna Nicole, Bloggers for Howard K. Stern, Bloggers for Virgie Arthur, Bonnie Stern, Harvey Levin, Howard K Stern, Lin Wood, Neil McCabe, QV, Virgie Arthur
Review the latest legal documents and see what you think?
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Which latest?
Oh And Hi QV :)
I would say…Blued, Screwed and Tatoo’d! And what’s even better is that they all did it to themselves.
All the worming, back peddling and attempting to shift the blame today is only digging the hole deeper and showing proof positive. They seem to have learned well how to ‘appear/sound’ today….from the top of the ladder! IMO
Thank you, QV, for being who you are. You have my respect for being the better person. It seems no one else had the backbone…but maybe now, more who feel the same, will find theirs.
Oops, forgot to answer your question. :)
Yes, Perjury…..or at least, if I or you had done the same, it would be and we would be in jail for it! IMO
Mishme Says:
April 11th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Which latest?
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Mishme, in the Legal Documents. All the ones filed under April 10, 08.
Between Florida & the inquest Howard & Larry BOTH commited perjury.
We can add Howie’s depo to the heap of lies.
QV, I think it is great that you figured out that shady things were going on behind the scenes & decided to take a stand.
Just keep your chin up & keep doing what is right.
The end result is what matters.
The ones choosing to continue supporting $tern show their lack of character.
Like their false God $tern they will have to live with what they have done to a mother & grandmother.
R.I.P. Anna & Daniel
I have seen so much perjury. an example is Howard saying he never gave Anna any drugs. Then Moe says he did. Larry said Howard gave anna a lot of drugs and said all kinds of things before he got the baby, Now he says just the opposite and he said it under oath the same as Howard.
Oh my I forgot Hi Lin Wood. Bad show the other night. You are for the wrong side LIn. Come on over, we will welcome you. You have enough money so go for the truth.
Most Definitely :!:
Thanks Ill take a look tommorow.
So I havent been able to view the documents just yet but from the comments I can gleam somewhat of their worth ,…
I personally have to comment on some comments here …
Firstly YES QV was one of the first to step back and rethink her position but that does not mean she is the only one … For one that has been around this saga and this site since the beginning days I could list a huge amount of ppl that have walked away shaking their heads and still full of questions, as well as some intriguing others that have stepped back and taken their own stand …
The bottom line would be : CAN YOU FACE YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR …
As much as public opinion and perception accounts for a vast impression to many degrees of the world including the justice system .. But one must realize that an opinion is something everyone has .. a WORTHY opinion steams from not only education but also a bit of self restraint when voicing such arises …
It becomes quite concerning when a group of ppl swarm together and start their stomp and shouts and yet have nothing but excuses and assumptions to back them up.
BUT as it stands now with the many that circle here and out there in internet land many have FINALLY not only taken their stand but also WAITED until they had their thirst for facts and truths quenched BEFORE putting voice ot it ..
So as the romantics spin in circles and excuse their own but crucify the others for the SAME DAMN thing … Those with a proud sense of HONOR and keen sense of deduction to seperate the BS from the BULL see the excuses and quietly await the TRUE justice to take down the liars thieves and thugs …
What goes around comes around .. and as we point out those that need to catch a clue we have to ensure we have the clue we need before pointing ;)
Sorry for the rant and rave and a lil bit of stomping .. hopefully some of this makes sense and those whom know me can read between the lines and know the TRUE message … I have kept my silence for quite some time .. a time will come when many get the shock of their lives realizing the fences they perched upon were nothing more then rotted stumps … infested with all they have thrown at others ….
Take Care Everyone .. hold your loved ones near and dear .. and pray you yourself never have to go through the trials and tribulations of those we watch through our glass balls ….
Of course there is perjury, not only in Howard’s deposition, but in both the Florida and Bahamian courts. The evidence is overwhelming, and as I understand it committing perjury in a jailable offense. Howard lied from the start when he said he was Dannielynn’s father. And he continued to say it even though he KNEW Anna was trying to escape the clutches of Larry and his threats to have her and the baby tested for drugs, and even after Anna approached Ben Thompson and asked him to sign the birth certificate as the baby’s father. Howard was Anna’s third and last choice, and it’s very telling that she didn’t turn to him first.
We know that he lied on the stand in Florida when he said the drugs were NOT in his name. After saying that he gave Anna her drugs personally so that she wouldn’t overdose, he says he knows nothing about the amount of methadone she was taking while pregnant, but it was probably less than 1 mg per day. Then why in the world was such a large quantity shipped by Kapoor, and why did Dr. E said she needed a veritable drug store in order to “knock her out?” Howard knows it took a LOT or drugs to know the drug addicted Anna out! My understanding is from Don Clarks interview on Scared Monkeys that Howard or “someone” pointed the finger of blame at Anna who was no longer here to defend herself. He said he’s done no drugs since college days when he toked a little, but there are multitudes of people stating that they saw him and Anna doing drugs. This is the tip of the lying iceburg….and then to say he had never heard of Havana….gotcha! Hi Lin, the boy needs acting lessons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8yms577i-s&feature=related
Everyone needs to look at this one more time. Everytime I see it, it becomes more clearer to me she was whacked out of her mind.
I agree Dee. Riley said that Howard gave Anna some sort of pill after her parents left, and before they started putting on the clown makeup (I’m assuming that). But when you are 8 months pregnant, you don’t run like Anna did in the video, unless you are “unaware” of the danger, or unless you believed you had already delivered your baby.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20011446,00.html
I thought Howard said he didn’t help in the Marshall vs Marshall case. Right here he says he did.
It is truly concerning how many details we can point out as the layman and spectator yet the justice system has yet to nail an arse to the fence …
Everytime I personally pick out another lie &/or excuse it truly infuriates me to no avail … the popper was during HKS depo he claimed to have no knowledge of whom or what “sweet havana” was … yet was “havana” not associated here as well as with the romantics … hmmmmm head scratcher knee banger I say …
Hopefully the Texas Team is gearing up and compiling all the lies and steam rolls the liars thugs and theives …
If it were you or I that pursued this such conduct we would be doing so behind bars …
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Great find, Dee! I wonder if Team Texas has that little jewel?
I hope that Team Texas has the people magazine where Howard said he worked in Texas with the Marshall case. I hope who ever takes care of letting the texas people know will tell them.
I like to share…
I thought you might appreciate this…
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(1) Zero Gravity
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on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing
to over 300 C.
The Russians used a pencil. Your taxes are due again–enjoy paying them.
(2) Our Constitution
“They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq . Why don’t we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, and it’s worked for over 200 years. Plus, we’re not using it anymore.”
(3) Ten Commandments
The real reason we can’t have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse is that you cannot post “Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery” and “Thou Shall Not Lie” in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians.
It creates a hostile work environment!
Hi Lin Wood! Hope you are enjoying the reading material…..lol
Dee, you mean this one?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20011446,00.html
AlamoGirl Says:
April 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Hi Lin Wood! Hope you are enjoying the reading material…..lol
Personally I hope he knows this is just the tip of the iceburg.
QV, I can’t say it enough, thank you for putting yourself on the line for the truth.
You know, Wood has done essentially the same thing as Howie is accusing OQuinn of doing. Several of the statements Wood made on Greta were outright defamatory against John O’Quinn. I guess envy justifies it….Lin Wood will never be the same calibur of man as John O’Quinn or Neil McCabe.
I only wish I could see behind what the FBI and Don Clark are up to. I am sure OQ is on it too. Then there was that Ted Gunderson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson they said he was taking up this case too. I know there is research being done in this case and it will hit the fan I hope soon.
QV I am so glad you don’t have all the things on here, like another site, that has articles of no marit. Trying to dig up information on a mother that has done nothing but love her daughter and try to look over the money that a little girl will never have when she grows up
What gets me is Larry Birkhead. These people were trying to dig up dirt on him also. I distinctly remember reading something to the effect that Larry was more than he seemed to be because he does come from a well-to-do family. But he wasn’t not excluded from the attempt to smear. If I were Larry, there would be no way I’d cover for Howie. It makes me want to think that there is some credibility to the claim that Larry was literally the “sperm donor” and that Howie has the signed non-disclosure agreement to totally discredit what little credibility remains with Larry.
I’ve gotta try.
The past doesn’t matter, the future does.
Her name is ‘Hope.’
Maybe we could bury the bad in the past and come together for her.
Watcha think QV?
Sir Howard, like Sir Paul?
Maybe Larry could be a Knight in shining Armor or something, really.
Maybe you could write another story about another Playboy Bunny, or something?
Maybe Virgie could live in peace, and out of the headlights.
I saw a couple of newborn baby bunnies tonight, and I saw the Mother in the Middle of the Road almost like she was ready to get run over or something.
From what I see on another site one of Roses girls needs a ride and a good lawyer. Anyone want to put the money up for her? If she is innocent why would you need a lawyer just to tell what you have said or wrote. Of course I have read some of it and most of it is bad about Virgie, McCabe and O’Quinn.
Hi Freida, good to see you. I hope Virgie can live in peace too. Why would so many women and a few men be so mean to a woman that lost her child and grandchild. You know if we give out love we get love back but if we give out hate we get hate back. Its the law of cause and effect. Love all you guys.
Hi guys
lol- the fax was funny, huh
Hi Red
The part about the nice car was the best.
She is NOT used to being with out a car…lmao
‘not’ in caps!!
I just had to shake my head and laugh at it for a minute before I put it up. Seems it has caused quite a stir at a couple of other places.
LOL QV!!
Cheers!!
;)
I was reading topix and some one the sternies on there are there 24/7 almost. Could someone tell me what the court is for tomarrow?
Hi Red and QV sure do love your sites. Good luck Virgie and keep up the good work because you must be doing something right because Beverly is crazy with jealousy. Love it.
Hey, Lin, are you lurking today?
How’s it hanging, dude?
Hi Dee, I believe the court hearing tomorrow is to ask to add Rose and Lyndal to the lawsuit Virgie vs. Stern.
Thanks so much shadowbaby. I really appriciate it. Man on Roses site they are really upset about all of this. I hope things start changing and the truth start coming out.
Well, darn, I was hoping for an update or somethin’.
April 18, 2008, 7:20PM
Anna Nicole Smith’s mom sues over ET interview
By MIKE TOLSON
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Lawyers wrangled over jurisdictional issues in federal court Friday in the early stages of what promises to be a drawn-out legal battle between Anna Nicole Smith’s mother and those she allege defamed and conspired against her.
Attorneys for Smith’s mother, Virgie Arthur, argued that the lawsuit should be held in state court, where it was filed.
The defendants — which include KPRC-TV, CBS Studios Inc. and Howard Stern, Smith’s former lawyer and companion at the time of her death — want it to be moved to federal court.
U.S. District Judge Lee Rosenthal will continue to hear arguments on the matter, which could be resolved within a few weeks.
Wherever it is heard, Arthur will seek to prove that statements made by her daughter on Entertainment Tonight, a syndicated television show distributed by CBS, were defamatory.
Smith, born Vickie Lynn Marshall, said on the show that Arthur had physically abused her as a child. Smith died of an accidental drug overdose last year.
Arthur, who lives in Montgomery County, also is suing Stern, claiming he encouraged Smith to make defamatory statements and arranged the Entertainment Tonight interview.
In an amended complaint in which her attorneys seek to add defendants, Arthur claims Stern also engaged in a subsequent conspiracy using Internet bloggers and various Web sites to destroy her reputation.
The conspiracy was a response to Arthur’s opposition to Stern being granted custody of Smith’s infant daughter, Dannielynn, Arthur alleges. Custody ultimately was given to the baby’s biological father, Larry Birkhead.
“Using the latest in electronic communication and jumping into the blogosphere, the conspirators set out to destroy Virgie,” the amended complaint alleges. “(They) spent hours in front of their computers desperate to find what they considered Virgie Arthur dirt. … Their goal was simple and straightforward — to destroy anyone that was opposed to Howard K. Stern or his interest.”
One of Arthur’s lawyers, Neil McCabe, said she did not sue Smith’s estate for defamation because doing so could create the impression that she was trying to profit at Dannielynn’s expense.
“We had to make a strategic and tactical decision,” McCabe said. “We would have been pilloried in the press if we had sued the estate. We can’t be perceived as taking money away from the child.”
In Friday’s hearing, which did not deal with any merits of the case, lawyers for KPRC argued that it merely aired the Entertainment Tonight episode according to contractual obligations, and bears no legal liability for its contents.
KPRC’s attorney, Charles Babcock, said the television station had no prior knowledge of its contents and no involvement in the story’s preparation.
One key element of the case is whether Arthur should be considered a public figure. If she is, then she will be required to show the defendants acted with actual malice, typically a difficult burden to overcome. Actual malice requires knowledge that the contents of the broadcast were false and defamatory or a reckless disregard of the truth.
mike.tolson@chron.com http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5713355.html
My there are some mean women out trying to protect their leader on the other site. Must be awful to give their life up for someone that is into BDSM. Seems these girls would have more important things to do than be on topix or Roses site 24/7
You ought to see the Virgie vs HKS thread over at 320. Posting about anything but the case. They don’t like the fact that McCabe is going forward to include the Queen Bee. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
AP Texas News
April 18, 2008, 8:28PM
Anna Nicole’s mom says lawyer spread rumors
By JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press Writer
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HOUSTON — Anna Nicole Smith’s mother, already suing her daughter’s former lawyer over claims she was an abusive parent, is now accusing him of helping spread false rumors that she was involved in incestuous and immoral relationships.
Attorneys for Howard K. Stern denied the claims in court Friday.
In November, Virgie Arthur filed a lawsuit against Stern, claiming that after she expressed concern about the safety of Smith and her daughter, Dannielynn, he arranged an “Entertainment Tonight” interview in which Smith said her mother was complicit in sexual and physical abuse Smith suffered as a child.
Arthur also sued Houston television station and NBC affiliate KPRC, which aired the program on Feb. 14, 2007, and CBS Studios, which produces the program.
Arthur, who lives in Montgomery County just north of Houston, says Stern, KPRC and CBS subjected her to public hatred and contempt by injuring her reputation.
Smith, a former Playboy playmate, died on Feb. 8, 2007, in Florida from an overdose of prescription drugs, a week before the program aired.
During a court hearing Friday, Arthur’s attorneys said that since filing the lawsuit, they have learned about additional efforts to defame their client that are connected to the “Entertainment Tonight” interview and asked U.S. District Judge Lee Rosenthal to let them add more defendants to the case.
Neil McCabe, one of Arthur’s attorneys, accused Stern of having his sister Bonnie and a Texas woman named Rose Turner, who runs a celebrity gossip Web site, spread a false story that his client had a child with her stepbrother when she was a teenager.
Luke Lantta, one of Stern’s attorneys, denied his client was part of any conspiracy to defame Arthur.
“There is no support to their theory,” he said. “I’m still waiting for the e-mail or documentation that shows Stern directing his sister. You won’t find it.”
William Ogden, Turner’s attorney, said his client is simply a blogger who posts documents on her Web site about celebrity court cases, she doesn’t know Howard Stern and wasn’t part of any conspiracy to defame Arthur.
Charles Babcock, an attorney for KPRC and CBS Studios, said if Arthur is deemed to be a public figure, then KPRC cannot be held responsible under the Constitution for the broadcast.
Babcock said CBS studios cannot be held responsible in the case because “Entertainment Tonight” accurately reported the allegations.
Rosenthal made no decisions in the case on Friday.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5713425.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5713425.html
During a court hearing Friday, Arthur’s attorneys said that since filing the lawsuit, they have learned about additional efforts to defame their client that are connected to the “Entertainment Tonight” interview and asked U.S. District Judge Lee Rosenthal to let them add more defendants to the case.
Neil McCabe, one of Arthur’s attorneys, accused Stern of having his sister Bonnie and a Texas woman named Rose Turner, who runs a celebrity gossip Web site, spread a false story that his client had a child with her stepbrother when she was a teenager.
Luke Lantta, one of Stern’s attorneys, denied his client was part of any conspiracy to defame Arthur.
“There is no support to their theory,” he said. “I’m still waiting for the e-mail or documentation that shows Stern directing his sister. You won’t find it.”
William Ogden, Turner’s attorney, said his client is simply a blogger who posts documents on her Web site about celebrity court cases, she doesn’t know Howard Stern and wasn’t part of any conspiracy to defame Arthur.
Charles Babcock, an attorney for KPRC and CBS Studios, said if Arthur is deemed to be a public figure, then KPRC cannot be held responsible under the Constitution for the broadcast.
Babcock said CBS studios cannot be held responsible in the case because “Entertainment Tonight” accurately reported the allegations.
Rosenthal made no decisions in the case on Friday.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Reminds me of a song.
I think this all might be ludicrious…
I know I need spell check.
What’s the driving force behind all of this?
We all know Howard is innocent, and the mother Virgie and Father Larry must be feeling pretty guilty…
Yet, we make a scene and can’t forgive htos human failings…
Seeems Virgie lost contact because she didn’t have enough money.
And, now I dont’ much like her lawyer(s)…
Because if there’s a will there’s a way…no matter how outnumbered you are.
But she selected not to fight to know her grandson or her daughter for that matter, and maybe time just got the best of her.
Ain’t so bad just to be, a small town sheriff….while the rest of your family pursues ‘Hollywood’ maybe.
If I were her, I’d just remember the good times and tell the lawyers to get lost.
Talk about ‘milking the media’…
Those darn attorneys think they’re so darn smart (of course they are).
Be smarter Momma Virgie, settle down and tell them where to go.
Seems ‘They’ve all been a bunch of leeches’ wanting to know all about you and your whole family, not just the ‘skin’ but from the ‘inside.’
I really wish for once in your life you knew how much you mean…
And, just wish you’d suddenly vanish from all of this…
You know you can’t take ‘it’ with you…so you might as well tell them to leave you the heck alone, like Billy, and get the heck out of Texas.’
And, when they keep coming back, tell ‘The Media’ that they are just trying to make money off of you and yours.
Hope you now know that Howard was innocent, at least.
But, maybe you need a break from all of this.
Just say Your daughter was beautiful, and so am I…
Get Lost.
Maybe until you get a really worthy offer, from O’Reilly or Katy Couric or really.
Wish you’d say it loud and clear…
Your daughter was just part of you…and
Just leave me the heck alone.
Be a great big Texas Woman.
Tell Them…
You don’t know the half of it. You don’t know what it’s like to have a beautiful, baby daughter…let alone how many sons…
Tell us.
:(
Sorry about the repetative posts. They must have gotten caught in the spam filter and I didn’t know.
TheRestOfTheStory, no problem, it happens all the time. :-)
Come on Freida saying bad about Virgie the woman I respect and admire. I hope she never quits till she has won everything she has her mind made to. Nobody knows what is in the mind of Virgie. She loved her daughter with all her heart. She loved Daniel too. Plus she justs wants to be a grandmother to her little granddaughter. Can’t you see how the two men in DLs live are spending all the money there is. Larry is living like a rich man off of DL. He doesn’t work anymore. Neither does Howard and he never has for the last 12 years I heard him say in the Fl. court. Shame on him living off his parents. I really think it is money he put away in his parents name when Anna was alive. My desire is to see truth and justice come to DL and Virgie.
Dee, I admire you. I can’t seem to make heads or tails of Freida’s prose.
Good Morning, QV, rumor is rampant that one of Rose’s rats has jumped ship and will appear at the hearing when it resumes on Monday. Have you heard anything about this? If true, what a sweet way to start a Monday!
Hi Lin! Ain’t life grand????
Here ya go QV, in case you did not see this:
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Hey Peppermint how come you act like you know so much. All boys and you wow you are really nut case. You are one bitter woman saying all thoes nastys about someone that has a website that supports Virgie. Don’t you know McCabe is reading all these site. Peppermint from you know where. It was on another blog on topix. I am sure they know by now. So go ahead and say what you want to on Roses and it is all taken down. Just because of your disability it still is the same.
Who this Peppermint bitch is? QV wants to know so she can deal with her.
My name is MARGIE, I live in Salem, Oregon. QV has my IP, but I’m happy to give it to her if she feels she needs it. She has my email addy too, so she can give it to McCabe if she feels it’s necessary.
Have a wonderful day,’ladies’!
Thanks Alamo.
And thank you MARGIE. Ill have to look for your email addy and no I will not repost your nonsense but if it keeps up, Ill let the proper authorities know about it.
You have a great day yourself…
Hi Qv
Happy Passover ;)
Im reading and I hear there is a traitor at Rose’s….Wow! I dont want to say I told you so but I will “I told you so”. I think it was three people I said it to one might have even been a moderator and nobody believed me :(
Thanks Mish and my Jewish relatives thank you too. :-)
Wow, how intuitive of you to suspect that. I gotta hand it to you Mish, you never did carry stuff to me from there. You have been a true diplomat and should not have been treated like you were.
Oops, I forgot to post that the latest legal documents are up on the link.
http://annanicoleandhowardkstern.com/legal-documents/
Hello Folks! Just want you all to know that I enjoy reading all of your post. I have not posted lately. I have just been lurking about!
Thanks, QV! For all you do. I hope you all are having a nice day!
I hear that Rose’s place is in an uproar! LOL….
I can’t believe that Lyndal actually said to McCabe that she had a 3rd party take a picture of her and the process server “just for the fun of it”. Does she think this is a big joke!
Gee, QV,
I might be suspected for something, by my ‘prose’ when in real life I just want to remember the good times when this was a nice place to visit and most everybody, just came here searching for more than ‘Television’ was telling us.
Of course, we never did find more.
LOL…reminds me of latin.
That great big ‘greened eyed monster’ called jealousy is at work.
That and good old fashioned team-sport competition.
Wonder who can type the fastest?
I’m not taking anything too, seriously these days.
Except for one dilemma at the moment…how do you ‘feed’ somebody something they will not ‘eat?’
Unless McCabe says that she did, I don’t believe her. I understand she was crying Friday. I can’t imagine her doing anything but growl and the legal machine that is churning up JUSTICE!
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The comments on the Houston Chronicle needs some positive comments.
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?plckPersonaPage=PersonaProfile&plckUserId=SandyHefner&newspaperUserId=SandyHefner
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