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		<title>By: Cassi</title>
		<link>http://www.qvsplace.com/2008/05/lies-fabrications-and-an-overthrow/comment-page-1/#comment-5664</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh Oh,
Would you be so kind as to post the &quot;missing and unedited&quot;, E-Mails that you are referring too, so we can see for ourselves what you have referenced as to the whole truth. Yes, I want to see it most definately. It would appear that you have copies since you know about alledged &quot;editing&quot; or &quot;missing&quot; documents. I am sincere about this request and it would be greatly appreciated. TIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh Oh,<br />
Would you be so kind as to post the &#8220;missing and unedited&#8221;, E-Mails that you are referring too, so we can see for ourselves what you have referenced as to the whole truth. Yes, I want to see it most definately. It would appear that you have copies since you know about alledged &#8220;editing&#8221; or &#8220;missing&#8221; documents. I am sincere about this request and it would be greatly appreciated. TIA</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
		<link>http://www.qvsplace.com/2008/05/lies-fabrications-and-an-overthrow/comment-page-1/#comment-5659</link>
		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;QV, BamaCat, and Vivian:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am going to have to apologize, but there is no way I can stand idly by and allow the posts that are being posted the last few days go unanswered!  In a few short days QV has been attacked, Virgie Arthur has been attacked, and I have been attacked with nothing but lies. It is all just the same old broken record spinning again and again and I guess it is not going to stop.  I guess I am in this thing to stay! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sick and tired of arguing the same old things over and over and over but Rose&#039;s people continue to attack Virgie Arthur, QV, me, and everyone else with falsehoods!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am very angry at some of the lies I have seen posted the last few days and I must say I am having to tie my fingers into knots to keep from going ballistic. I cannot begin to say how many paragraphs I have deleted from this post.  So I will keep it simple and just say I am not going to stand by and watch people attacked with lies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, someone on Rose&#039;s site accused me of threatening someone.  The person that accused me of that is a LIAR! Plain and simple. I have never, ever threatened anyone in my life.       &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From now on anything Rose or her blind followers say, I am going to consider their statements lies unless they have anything to back up their statements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now a little shout out to Lin Wood.  I read in an old Houston Chronicle article that Rusty Hardin complained about Anna Nicole calling Pierce Marshall a murderer.  I believe the exact words I read are: &quot;Vickie also denied causing E. Pierce Marshall emotional distress. Apparently in Vickie&#039;s mind, falsely&lt;br /&gt;
accusing someone of murder and attempted murder in public in front of his family and in stories carried&lt;br /&gt;
worldwide without one shred of evidence doesn&#039;t cause emotional distress or discomfort to the person she is&lt;br /&gt;
falsely accusing.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe the evidence I have seen indicates that Howard K. Stern is at the VERY LEAST An ENABLER that happened to have been responsible for the deaths of two people that died from drugs in HOWARD K STERN&#039;S name.  That he was the only one that could have been responsible for their deaths, and that he has millions  of motives.  OPPORTUNITY, METHOD, AND MOTIVE. I believe that Howard K. Stern intentionally m******d Daniel and Anna.  I base my believes on changing stories, screwy timelines, missing drugs from the Hard Rock Hotel.  But, then that is my opinion and I am not being paid to go on A CURRENT AFFAIR to state it.  I believe the exact quote from Rusty Hardin to Anna Nicole on the stand was: &quot;You get back at Pierce and get paid for it.&quot;  Now, I wonder who made the arrangements for that little CURRENT AFFAIR deal?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now there will be a swell of &quot;HKS was found not guilty&quot; posts.  But then we know that is not true and even if he was found not guilty.  OJ Simpson was found not guilty but I still believe that OJ Simpson is a murderer.  Obviously a panel of jurors in a civil case came to that same conclusion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did not dig up trash on victims and witnesses but I did study the time lines, and the autopsy report and the flip-flopping statements of HKS and I came to my conclusion and there is no doubt in my mind someday a jury will have an opportunity to study ALL of the evidence.  Until that day I guess I will just stay on the Internet voicing my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QV, BamaCat, and Vivian:  </p>
<p>I am going to have to apologize, but there is no way I can stand idly by and allow the posts that are being posted the last few days go unanswered!  In a few short days QV has been attacked, Virgie Arthur has been attacked, and I have been attacked with nothing but lies. It is all just the same old broken record spinning again and again and I guess it is not going to stop.  I guess I am in this thing to stay! </p>
<p>I am sick and tired of arguing the same old things over and over and over but Rose&#8217;s people continue to attack Virgie Arthur, QV, me, and everyone else with falsehoods!  </p>
<p>I am very angry at some of the lies I have seen posted the last few days and I must say I am having to tie my fingers into knots to keep from going ballistic. I cannot begin to say how many paragraphs I have deleted from this post.  So I will keep it simple and just say I am not going to stand by and watch people attacked with lies.</p>
<p>Now, someone on Rose&#8217;s site accused me of threatening someone.  The person that accused me of that is a LIAR! Plain and simple. I have never, ever threatened anyone in my life.       </p>
<p>From now on anything Rose or her blind followers say, I am going to consider their statements lies unless they have anything to back up their statements.</p>
<p>Now a little shout out to Lin Wood.  I read in an old Houston Chronicle article that Rusty Hardin complained about Anna Nicole calling Pierce Marshall a murderer.  I believe the exact words I read are: &#8220;Vickie also denied causing E. Pierce Marshall emotional distress. Apparently in Vickie&#8217;s mind, falsely<br />
accusing someone of murder and attempted murder in public in front of his family and in stories carried<br />
worldwide without one shred of evidence doesn&#8217;t cause emotional distress or discomfort to the person she is<br />
falsely accusing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe the evidence I have seen indicates that Howard K. Stern is at the VERY LEAST An ENABLER that happened to have been responsible for the deaths of two people that died from drugs in HOWARD K STERN&#8217;S name.  That he was the only one that could have been responsible for their deaths, and that he has millions  of motives.  OPPORTUNITY, METHOD, AND MOTIVE. I believe that Howard K. Stern intentionally m******d Daniel and Anna.  I base my believes on changing stories, screwy timelines, missing drugs from the Hard Rock Hotel.  But, then that is my opinion and I am not being paid to go on A CURRENT AFFAIR to state it.  I believe the exact quote from Rusty Hardin to Anna Nicole on the stand was: &#8220;You get back at Pierce and get paid for it.&#8221;  Now, I wonder who made the arrangements for that little CURRENT AFFAIR deal?</p>
<p>Now there will be a swell of &#8220;HKS was found not guilty&#8221; posts.  But then we know that is not true and even if he was found not guilty.  OJ Simpson was found not guilty but I still believe that OJ Simpson is a murderer.  Obviously a panel of jurors in a civil case came to that same conclusion.</p>
<p>I did not dig up trash on victims and witnesses but I did study the time lines, and the autopsy report and the flip-flopping statements of HKS and I came to my conclusion and there is no doubt in my mind someday a jury will have an opportunity to study ALL of the evidence.  Until that day I guess I will just stay on the Internet voicing my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: BamaCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamaCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QV,
That is the difference between you &amp; Rose, you give the opposing side a chance to comment.
All that is allowed on Rose&#039;s side are a bunch of &quot;YES&quot; men.
How dare she allow anyone to have a differing opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QV,<br />
That is the difference between you &amp; Rose, you give the opposing side a chance to comment.<br />
All that is allowed on Rose&#8217;s side are a bunch of &#8220;YES&#8221; men.<br />
How dare she allow anyone to have a differing opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: QV</title>
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		<dc:creator>QV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dee. This one is a coward. They are using AOL in which the IP is shared by many users. If need be, it can be found out who this is though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dee. This one is a coward. They are using AOL in which the IP is shared by many users. If need be, it can be found out who this is though.</p>
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		<title>By: QV</title>
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		<dc:creator>QV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh oh Says:&lt;br /&gt;
May 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m leaving this up so people can see how nasty and vile you are. You know nothing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How dare you bring my dead Mother into your slam fest.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What kind of creature are you? I made my decision based upon the FACTS that were forthcoming over time. And I thank God that I have a mind of my own that can think independently of a mob.&lt;/p&gt;
P.S. The step-brother story is NOT TRUE!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh Says:<br />
May 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pm<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I&#8217;m leaving this up so people can see how nasty and vile you are. You know nothing. </p>
<p>How dare you bring my dead Mother into your slam fest.  </p>
<p>What kind of creature are you? I made my decision based upon the FACTS that were forthcoming over time. And I thank God that I have a mind of my own that can think independently of a mob.</p>
<p>P.S. The step-brother story is NOT TRUE!</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know it really makes me wonder how these people that post the terrible posts are from Roses site and on that site you see NO NO neg about Howard. I am glad you have ips so you know who these people are. I am glad you are not into BDSM and hatred like Roses site is. IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know it really makes me wonder how these people that post the terrible posts are from Roses site and on that site you see NO NO neg about Howard. I am glad you have ips so you know who these people are. I am glad you are not into BDSM and hatred like Roses site is. IMO</p>
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		<title>By: Uh oh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uh oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The people at Rose&#039;s have been exposed?&quot; Are you kidding? What I see is a few emails that have been seriously edited. Emails that are missing outright. What about those? Aren&#039;t any of you interested in see the WHOLE, UNEDITED versions of those emails as well as the ones in between that were left out?

I believe Howard knew people were blogging about him and Anna. I DON&#039;T believe he had direct contact with anyone. I don&#039;t care if he was telling Bonnie to get this or that. Virgie Arthur made her bed on national T.V. and now she can&#039;t stomach to lie in it. To Bad. I don&#039;t feel sorry for her. The look of satisfaction and the coy smiles during her interviews after both Daniel and Anna&#039;s death, paint a different picture other than a greiving woman. 

NEWS FLASH
There was no conspiricy. Everyone was doing what they wanted to do. VERIFYING TRUTH of stories and rumor&#039;s that were out there. Don&#039;t any of you realize that all this so called deflamation was NEVER used by Howard or anyone. Check Rose&#039;s site. SHE has NEVER written anything resembling deflamation of Virgie. QV did though and when she didn&#039;t recieve the spotlight from Howard and his family after her mother&#039;s death, suddenly she flips? Right? Tell me another one. Havana flips because Howard didn&#039;t recognize her monkier? Why would he? He never had any contact with her. So she flips and then gives a statement full of lies. Don&#039;t you just love how McCabe had to put her in place several times throughout? It&#039;s quite funny actually. 

Chrystal: &quot;oh McCabe, your such a meanie!!&quot; 
McCabe: &quot;lets try to keep this professional.&quot;  

The step brother and cousin story that QV posted were true. How is that deflamation? Virgie&#039;s young son shot himself in the head with her gun is true. Deflamation is where? Deflamation doesn&#039;t arise out of the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people at Rose&#8217;s have been exposed?&#8221; Are you kidding? What I see is a few emails that have been seriously edited. Emails that are missing outright. What about those? Aren&#8217;t any of you interested in see the WHOLE, UNEDITED versions of those emails as well as the ones in between that were left out?</p>
<p>I believe Howard knew people were blogging about him and Anna. I DON&#8217;T believe he had direct contact with anyone. I don&#8217;t care if he was telling Bonnie to get this or that. Virgie Arthur made her bed on national T.V. and now she can&#8217;t stomach to lie in it. To Bad. I don&#8217;t feel sorry for her. The look of satisfaction and the coy smiles during her interviews after both Daniel and Anna&#8217;s death, paint a different picture other than a greiving woman. </p>
<p>NEWS FLASH<br />
There was no conspiricy. Everyone was doing what they wanted to do. VERIFYING TRUTH of stories and rumor&#8217;s that were out there. Don&#8217;t any of you realize that all this so called deflamation was NEVER used by Howard or anyone. Check Rose&#8217;s site. SHE has NEVER written anything resembling deflamation of Virgie. QV did though and when she didn&#8217;t recieve the spotlight from Howard and his family after her mother&#8217;s death, suddenly she flips? Right? Tell me another one. Havana flips because Howard didn&#8217;t recognize her monkier? Why would he? He never had any contact with her. So she flips and then gives a statement full of lies. Don&#8217;t you just love how McCabe had to put her in place several times throughout? It&#8217;s quite funny actually. </p>
<p>Chrystal: &#8220;oh McCabe, your such a meanie!!&#8221;<br />
McCabe: &#8220;lets try to keep this professional.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The step brother and cousin story that QV posted were true. How is that deflamation? Virgie&#8217;s young son shot himself in the head with her gun is true. Deflamation is where? Deflamation doesn&#8217;t arise out of the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bamacat I agree with you on everything but there is more.I would like to know why Pol and Patric do not get along with Howard. they do not talk. I am wondering if they wrote the book to try to save what is left of the company or what ever it is. Howard is for Howard in my opinion and will try to destroyanybody that gets in his way of the money he thinks he deserves. this is just my opinion too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bamacat I agree with you on everything but there is more.I would like to know why Pol and Patric do not get along with Howard. they do not talk. I am wondering if they wrote the book to try to save what is left of the company or what ever it is. Howard is for Howard in my opinion and will try to destroyanybody that gets in his way of the money he thinks he deserves. this is just my opinion too.</p>
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		<title>By: BamaCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamaCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivian,
I commend you for continuing to be friends w/ QV despite a difference of opinions. 
In most cases each of us are seeking the truth.
Many it seems have strayed &amp; continue to turn a blind eye when things are discovered that expose the truth, all for the sake of a chance in the limelight.
They refuse to believe that their part was not merely &quot;blogging&quot; but an out &amp; out campaign to do harm to a woman they did not know.
For that matter ANYONE who stands in the way of the real truth coming out becomes a target.
Perhaps they see this as a sport of sorts &amp; want to “win” at all cost, losing integrity, honor &amp; character along the way.
Not to mention the harm caused to innocent people who merely wanted to know the truth no matter how upsetting &amp; heartbreaking it might be.
Daniel deserved an honest inquest w/ no swaying of evidence or circumstance.
Anna deserved medical treatment or at least the dignity to not die in a filthy bed w/ dried feces &amp; vomit.
Virgie deserves knowing all of the details &amp; not a bunch of covered up facts &amp; outright lies.
Dannielynn deserves to know her mother’s family for that is a part of her regardless of how Larry &amp; Howard would like to distort the issue.
You cannot love a child too much &amp; children need all the love they can get in this cold, cruel world.

Mrs. Marple,
You are a very wise woman.
We all get carried away with our feelings in this case &amp; make mistakes, myself included.
If your thoughts &amp; your post convince one person to look a little deeper for the truth then your efforts have been worthwhile IMO.
I truly love reading your post as I know they are always thought provoking.
They usually point out something one of us might have missed.
Together each of us complete the puzzle so that hopefully one day soon the whole picture can be viewed &amp; justice will prevail.
Your friendship &amp; those of many of us fighting for the truth is the “good” that has came about when otherwise we might never have “met’.
So if the Sterntologist say we are “paid bloggers” I suppose they might be right…we have been “paid” with some wonderful, kind, caring friends that will be there if the other needs them.
Mishme,
I am going to go out on a limb &amp; give you MY opinion.
I can’t answer for others but here are my thoughts on the people Anna had surrounding her. I think all were strange, wild, crazy, out for what they could get for the most part.
Definitely not someone I would associate myself with as I think friendship is a two way street. Not all giving, not all taking. You are there for one another for the good &amp; the bad, through thick &amp; thin…yes, almost like a marriage. LOL
Jackie: I think her &amp; Anna were friends. I think she loved Anna &amp; Daniel. Their friendship was strained (if at all) after Mark was prosecuted. I think she spoke some truth &amp; some fabrications in her interviews. I am sure she knows a lot more than she told &amp; therefore why she spoke so strongly against HK$. Perhaps she thought if she told enough Howard would be found out??
“Hollywood”: I believe his “ice bath” story. I think him, Anna &amp; Howard all did drugs together. I believe Howard was jealous &amp; trumped up the charges &amp; “removed” Mark from Anna’s life. I believe he loved Anna &amp; Daniel. Is he 100” honest? No. However I do believe he is aware of what Howard is capable of &amp; the true extent of what went on in Anna’s life. I do think it is disrespectful for him to be selling Anna’s memento’s but maybe he needs the money after being incarcerated. The dressing up like Anna is creepy &amp; disrespectful but considering the whole strange bunch of characters Anna had around I suppose it is the “norm”. LOL Overall I think he would fight for his true friends &amp; be there if they needed him. I feel if no interference from Howard &amp; Anna was still w/ Mark her &amp; Daniel might still be alive. He at least has the good graces to know that family is important &amp; Virgie is to be respected as a mother.
FS &amp; GBT: I believe Anna &amp; Howard used them to finance their way w/ promises of paying them back from the Marshall money. Anna was more than likely “pimped” out to get closer to G. Ben’s wallet. Both Anna &amp; Howard’s doings, I would suspect. More than likely all parties were involved in some shady dealings…you know “birds of a feather, flock together”, same as Alex Goen (the TrimSpa character). Horizon’s was not a gift &amp; was stolen from G.Ben &amp; Ford. I don’t know if Anna suspected Howard before her death &amp; told Ford to get her things. Maybe they suspected him after seeing him making arrangements w/ ET instead of “grieving” &amp; decided to go &amp; get documentation to prove his guilt???  Perhaps they knew that Howard had his family going to Horizons to remove certain items &amp; he wanted to insure Dannielynn had irreplaceable things in safe keeping??? I am sure they know a lot &amp; I commend them for at least showing up at the inquest &amp; reporting what they did see. Are they 100% honest? No. I say this because they should have never did the deed for Anna to gain residency. IMO that was a bit shady. Perhaps they thought they were helping??? I applaud them for bringing out the clown tape &amp; the picture of dead Daniel. For to me those speak volumes against Howard. But when Geraldo (I think it was) asked Ford what did he want to happen to Howard &amp; he said, “I don’t want anything to happen to Howard” I was upset. To me he should have said, “I want Howard to be fully investigated &amp; for him to tell the truth, whatever that may be”, or something to that effect.
Pol and Patric: I think they truly cared for Anna &amp; Daniel in their own unique way. I hear their book is a tribute to Anna so I applaud them for that. I think they know a lot &amp; should have told all they know &amp; IF anyone is too blame for either death let the chips fall where they may. If no one is responsible then at least ALL secrets are known &amp; no hiding &amp; distorting of facts. I think Pol &amp; Patrik have illusions of grandeur about what they are &amp; who they are. (Bobby Trendy come to mind for anyone? LOL) I think the online records &amp; what Red has posted speaks volumes for their character. It has been reported that they, themselves stole from Anna after her death. That could be true or else why the change of pictures from one publication of their book to the other (ultrasound, etc.) Regardless, I don’t think the ultrasound picture should have been included as it is what I would consider “private”. Are they 100% honest?  No!  
 Rita: I commend Rita for writing this book. I wish she had done more research  beforehand so she would not find herself in the position she is now in. I am sure she did get lots of good, truthful info from those inside soon after Anna’s death. I believe the nanny’s original story that Lincoln aired last April was a true &amp; accurate description of inside Horizons &amp; Anna &amp; Howard’s “relationship” &amp; Daniel’s death. I think Rita was looking for “proof” after the book &amp; was set up. Lincoln &amp; the nanny’s had a whole different story before someone or something ($$) got to them. IMO I think Rita went w/ her gut as she was inside the “media machine” when all of this went down so she more than likely knows a lot more than we do on this case. Is she 100% honest? I would say probably as honest as her sources &amp; the info they gave her. If not for the Nanny-gate Rita was on a roll to expose what I &amp; many others think is the truth. The same as all of this w/ Bonnie, Rose &amp; all of the lies they are covering up. This time instead of Rita’s book exposing the truth we have QV &amp; Havana. We are seeing an instant replay of what they did to Rita now being done to QV &amp; Havana with the lies, slandering, hatefulness, etc. aimed towards them. Bless you, QV &amp; Havana!
And to those that ask why Virgie could support Rita after she wrote a book trashing her daughter…see I don’t think of it as “trashing her daughter”. Most of it was common knowledge &amp; the truth surrounding Anna’s life. Virgie could not change how Anna lived her life but she loved her just the same. Besides I would support anyone who helped get the truth out there so that the slow wheels of justice could start rolling. If it was my family &amp; Satan himself offered to help I would take him up on the offer.
All of this is my opinion.

Sorry QV, to have taken over the board w/ this long post but it was asked what “Virgie’s” side felt about these characters. LOL 
I don’t necessarily classify myself as being on a side but if fighting for the truth is Virgie’s side then I am mighty proud to be a part of it.
At one time Virgie &amp; Larry BOTH sit on this side &amp; wanted to know the truth about how Daniel &amp; Anna died. Then Larry saw the “pot o’ gold at the end of the rainbow” &amp; decided the how’s &amp; whys of the deaths were no longer important. Not even important enough for his daughter to one day know the WHOLE truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivian,<br />
I commend you for continuing to be friends w/ QV despite a difference of opinions.<br />
In most cases each of us are seeking the truth.<br />
Many it seems have strayed &amp; continue to turn a blind eye when things are discovered that expose the truth, all for the sake of a chance in the limelight.<br />
They refuse to believe that their part was not merely &#8220;blogging&#8221; but an out &amp; out campaign to do harm to a woman they did not know.<br />
For that matter ANYONE who stands in the way of the real truth coming out becomes a target.<br />
Perhaps they see this as a sport of sorts &amp; want to “win” at all cost, losing integrity, honor &amp; character along the way.<br />
Not to mention the harm caused to innocent people who merely wanted to know the truth no matter how upsetting &amp; heartbreaking it might be.<br />
Daniel deserved an honest inquest w/ no swaying of evidence or circumstance.<br />
Anna deserved medical treatment or at least the dignity to not die in a filthy bed w/ dried feces &amp; vomit.<br />
Virgie deserves knowing all of the details &amp; not a bunch of covered up facts &amp; outright lies.<br />
Dannielynn deserves to know her mother’s family for that is a part of her regardless of how Larry &amp; Howard would like to distort the issue.<br />
You cannot love a child too much &amp; children need all the love they can get in this cold, cruel world.</p>
<p>Mrs. Marple,<br />
You are a very wise woman.<br />
We all get carried away with our feelings in this case &amp; make mistakes, myself included.<br />
If your thoughts &amp; your post convince one person to look a little deeper for the truth then your efforts have been worthwhile IMO.<br />
I truly love reading your post as I know they are always thought provoking.<br />
They usually point out something one of us might have missed.<br />
Together each of us complete the puzzle so that hopefully one day soon the whole picture can be viewed &amp; justice will prevail.<br />
Your friendship &amp; those of many of us fighting for the truth is the “good” that has came about when otherwise we might never have “met’.<br />
So if the Sterntologist say we are “paid bloggers” I suppose they might be right…we have been “paid” with some wonderful, kind, caring friends that will be there if the other needs them.<br />
Mishme,<br />
I am going to go out on a limb &amp; give you MY opinion.<br />
I can’t answer for others but here are my thoughts on the people Anna had surrounding her. I think all were strange, wild, crazy, out for what they could get for the most part.<br />
Definitely not someone I would associate myself with as I think friendship is a two way street. Not all giving, not all taking. You are there for one another for the good &amp; the bad, through thick &amp; thin…yes, almost like a marriage. LOL<br />
Jackie: I think her &amp; Anna were friends. I think she loved Anna &amp; Daniel. Their friendship was strained (if at all) after Mark was prosecuted. I think she spoke some truth &amp; some fabrications in her interviews. I am sure she knows a lot more than she told &amp; therefore why she spoke so strongly against HK$. Perhaps she thought if she told enough Howard would be found out??<br />
“Hollywood”: I believe his “ice bath” story. I think him, Anna &amp; Howard all did drugs together. I believe Howard was jealous &amp; trumped up the charges &amp; “removed” Mark from Anna’s life. I believe he loved Anna &amp; Daniel. Is he 100” honest? No. However I do believe he is aware of what Howard is capable of &amp; the true extent of what went on in Anna’s life. I do think it is disrespectful for him to be selling Anna’s memento’s but maybe he needs the money after being incarcerated. The dressing up like Anna is creepy &amp; disrespectful but considering the whole strange bunch of characters Anna had around I suppose it is the “norm”. LOL Overall I think he would fight for his true friends &amp; be there if they needed him. I feel if no interference from Howard &amp; Anna was still w/ Mark her &amp; Daniel might still be alive. He at least has the good graces to know that family is important &amp; Virgie is to be respected as a mother.<br />
FS &amp; GBT: I believe Anna &amp; Howard used them to finance their way w/ promises of paying them back from the Marshall money. Anna was more than likely “pimped” out to get closer to G. Ben’s wallet. Both Anna &amp; Howard’s doings, I would suspect. More than likely all parties were involved in some shady dealings…you know “birds of a feather, flock together”, same as Alex Goen (the TrimSpa character). Horizon’s was not a gift &amp; was stolen from G.Ben &amp; Ford. I don’t know if Anna suspected Howard before her death &amp; told Ford to get her things. Maybe they suspected him after seeing him making arrangements w/ ET instead of “grieving” &amp; decided to go &amp; get documentation to prove his guilt???  Perhaps they knew that Howard had his family going to Horizons to remove certain items &amp; he wanted to insure Dannielynn had irreplaceable things in safe keeping??? I am sure they know a lot &amp; I commend them for at least showing up at the inquest &amp; reporting what they did see. Are they 100% honest? No. I say this because they should have never did the deed for Anna to gain residency. IMO that was a bit shady. Perhaps they thought they were helping??? I applaud them for bringing out the clown tape &amp; the picture of dead Daniel. For to me those speak volumes against Howard. But when Geraldo (I think it was) asked Ford what did he want to happen to Howard &amp; he said, “I don’t want anything to happen to Howard” I was upset. To me he should have said, “I want Howard to be fully investigated &amp; for him to tell the truth, whatever that may be”, or something to that effect.<br />
Pol and Patric: I think they truly cared for Anna &amp; Daniel in their own unique way. I hear their book is a tribute to Anna so I applaud them for that. I think they know a lot &amp; should have told all they know &amp; IF anyone is too blame for either death let the chips fall where they may. If no one is responsible then at least ALL secrets are known &amp; no hiding &amp; distorting of facts. I think Pol &amp; Patrik have illusions of grandeur about what they are &amp; who they are. (Bobby Trendy come to mind for anyone? LOL) I think the online records &amp; what Red has posted speaks volumes for their character. It has been reported that they, themselves stole from Anna after her death. That could be true or else why the change of pictures from one publication of their book to the other (ultrasound, etc.) Regardless, I don’t think the ultrasound picture should have been included as it is what I would consider “private”. Are they 100% honest?  No!<br />
 Rita: I commend Rita for writing this book. I wish she had done more research  beforehand so she would not find herself in the position she is now in. I am sure she did get lots of good, truthful info from those inside soon after Anna’s death. I believe the nanny’s original story that Lincoln aired last April was a true &amp; accurate description of inside Horizons &amp; Anna &amp; Howard’s “relationship” &amp; Daniel’s death. I think Rita was looking for “proof” after the book &amp; was set up. Lincoln &amp; the nanny’s had a whole different story before someone or something ($$) got to them. IMO I think Rita went w/ her gut as she was inside the “media machine” when all of this went down so she more than likely knows a lot more than we do on this case. Is she 100% honest? I would say probably as honest as her sources &amp; the info they gave her. If not for the Nanny-gate Rita was on a roll to expose what I &amp; many others think is the truth. The same as all of this w/ Bonnie, Rose &amp; all of the lies they are covering up. This time instead of Rita’s book exposing the truth we have QV &amp; Havana. We are seeing an instant replay of what they did to Rita now being done to QV &amp; Havana with the lies, slandering, hatefulness, etc. aimed towards them. Bless you, QV &amp; Havana!<br />
And to those that ask why Virgie could support Rita after she wrote a book trashing her daughter…see I don’t think of it as “trashing her daughter”. Most of it was common knowledge &amp; the truth surrounding Anna’s life. Virgie could not change how Anna lived her life but she loved her just the same. Besides I would support anyone who helped get the truth out there so that the slow wheels of justice could start rolling. If it was my family &amp; Satan himself offered to help I would take him up on the offer.<br />
All of this is my opinion.</p>
<p>Sorry QV, to have taken over the board w/ this long post but it was asked what “Virgie’s” side felt about these characters. LOL<br />
I don’t necessarily classify myself as being on a side but if fighting for the truth is Virgie’s side then I am mighty proud to be a part of it.<br />
At one time Virgie &amp; Larry BOTH sit on this side &amp; wanted to know the truth about how Daniel &amp; Anna died. Then Larry saw the “pot o’ gold at the end of the rainbow” &amp; decided the how’s &amp; whys of the deaths were no longer important. Not even important enough for his daughter to one day know the WHOLE truth.</p>
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		<description>http://www.atzmi.com/TestIntroduction2.aspx?CID=2   ASK AND YE SHALL RECIEVE.  I found it somwhat strange, after my posts on mother&#039;s day I went back to ART&#039;s site, and at the bottom of the FORUM COMMENTS, I found this.  The post  i wrote there was really for the one person who has 5 children, very young, and very foul mouthed.But I do not like to embarress anyone unless its necessary.i was  trying to get her to think of her children, at leasrt on Mother&#039;s Day, i felt she should be a little nicer. so to find this  , What DOES YOUR SOUL LOOK LIKE TEST WAS just what God ordered.SO i also posted it on ART&quot;S  omments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.atzmi.com/TestIntroduction2.aspx?CID=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.atzmi.com/TestIntroduction2.aspx?CID=2</a>   ASK AND YE SHALL RECIEVE.  I found it somwhat strange, after my posts on mother&#8217;s day I went back to ART&#8217;s site, and at the bottom of the FORUM COMMENTS, I found this.  The post  i wrote there was really for the one person who has 5 children, very young, and very foul mouthed.But I do not like to embarress anyone unless its necessary.i was  trying to get her to think of her children, at leasrt on Mother&#8217;s Day, i felt she should be a little nicer. so to find this  , What DOES YOUR SOUL LOOK LIKE TEST WAS just what God ordered.SO i also posted it on ART&#8221;S  omments</p>
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