Imagine this:
1. Hearing via media that your precious 20 year old grandson died in the Bahamas of a drug overdose. You know for a fact that your grandson did not use or abuse drugs.
2. Later receiving a phone call from your incoherent grieving world famous daughter telling you about his death and telling you that he will be back.
3. The phone goes dead in the middle of the message and you try in vain to call your daughter back and can not reach her ever again. You are hung up on and then the number is changed.
4. Having “someone” falsely make your drug addicted daughter believe that you accused her of murder.
5. When all means of contacting your daughter fail and you try the last resort by going on national television to warn her that you are worried about her and fear that she will die next.
6. Having your worst fears realized. Five months later, your daughter is dead. From a drug overdose.
7. Traveling to Florida to claim your unmarried daughters body. Florida law says next of kin over age 18 is you, but the court rules against you and basically in theory gives your daughter’s body to a grifter who is no relation.
8. Having to travel out of the country for your daughter’s funeral and not being allowed to participate in any way. Not being permitted even to place family pictures on display.
9. Having your surviving granddaughter in the custody of the person who you think is responsible for the deaths of your daughter and grandson. The DNA indicates who the real father is and he is in “cahoots” with the person who you think is responsible for the deaths of your daughter and grandson.
This is Virgie Arthur’s story.
In her own words, in a sworn declaration given in Howard K. Stern’s lawsuit against Mark Speer (case dismissed) and Jackie Hatten (still ongoing), Mrs Arthur describes her living nightmare…
I was only sixteen years old when Vickie was born and I married her father, Don Hogan. The marriage did not last. Don was abusive and he beat me when I was pregnant with Vickie. Not in my home, but in Liberty County, he raped my ten year-old sister and her young friend while I was married to him. I did not find out about this until I left him.
Don moved out of our house when Vickie was about four or five months old when I finally fought back. We weren’t divorced until just weeks before Vickie’s second birthday because I could not afford a divorce. I got the divorce as soon as I could. He was charged in connection with these crimes and served sixty days in jail and five years probation.
During Vickie’s childhood she had little to no connection with her father. I remarried and Vickie was primarily raised by me along with her stepfather.
Like a lot of Texas parents during this period, I whipped Vickie’s butt a few times, when she had earned it. All my children were disciplined the same way. I would discipline her with a leather belt, if I had one handy. The last time I recall doing so was when she was 13 and didn’t come home from school. I ultimately found her at a friend’s house at 3 a.m. and brought her home. When we got home, she received the belt.
I also have been made aware that Vickie claimed that both her biological father, Don Hogan, and her stepfather molested her. While living under my roof, she never made such a claim. Since Vickie was not around Don Hogan when she was growing up, it must have happened when they reunited many years later, after Vickie appeared in Playboy magazine in 1992. I do not know whether that did or did not happen.
As for her stepfather, I do not believe that ever happened. In my view Vickie had a decent childhood. When she started her career, she created the “poor pitiful me story,” because it worked better for the media.
Vickie dropped out of high school after her freshman year. At the age of 17, she married Billy Smith, and had her son Daniel that same year. I picked the name “Daniel” from the Bible. Vickie’s marriage to Billy didn’t last long, and they separated shortly after Daniel’s birth.
When Daniel was three months old, Vickie called me to come get her and the baby. I got them and they lived with me off and on for a while.
Daniel lived with me until he was six years old. During Daniel’s young years, until he was about six years old, he lived with me, and I raised him.
While Vickie was growing up, I worked as a sheriff’s deputy. When Vickie was a young mother, I learned from her boyfriend that she was stripping. I was understandably concerned, and so I went to see for myself, driving there in my sheriffs deputy patrol car. When I entered the club, I saw Vickie dancing in nothing but a g- string right in front of some old man’s face. I told the manager that she was my daughter and that he had better get her out of there and, if he continued to let her dance there, would be back regularly to check his license.
When we got home, I told Vickie she wasn’t going to strip, and she moved out of my house.
After Vickie moved out and later moved to Los Angeles, our relationship became more estranged. One issue was Vickie’s abuse of drugs. In 1995, I assisted in getting her help for her addiction, and she checked into the Betty Ford Clinic. But Vickie’s drug use continued. In my view, the estrangement increased when Howard Stern entered Vickie’s life as a friend and her attorney. He kept all of us from her, not just me. He kept the whole family away from her. People who loved her tried to help her. Those that didn’t love her, lived with her and lived off her.
Yes, I blamed Howard for keeping me out of Vickie’s life. I first learned of Daniel’s death from the media, not from Vickie. When Vickie called to tell me about Daniel’s death, it was several days after he had died, and I had already learned the news from reports on television. In the phone message received, Vickie’s speech was slurred, and she was mumbling like she was drunk.
She was in the middle of telling me that Daniel was gone, but that he would come back, when the phone went dead in the middle of her sentence. I tried to contact Vickie numerous times, but each time I called I was either hung up on or the
number had been changed. That message from Vickie was the last time I heard from my daughter.
I was not invited to Daniel’s funeral, which hurt a lot. About a week before Daniel’s funeral, I was interviewed by CNN. I was quoted as saying:
“I know that Danny had a trust fund…But if Howard marries Vickie and Daniel’s gone, that leaves Howard and the baby to inherit whatever money she has…: Vickie Lynn, you know I love you, always have. And be careful about who you hang around with, because you may be next.”
I firmly believed those opinions at the time, and still believe them today.
Sure enough, just a few months later on February 8, 2007, Vickie died. The Florida hearings that were held to determine where Vickie would be buried were very painful for me. I was angry with Judge Seidlin’s behavior during the court case in Florida. I thought he acted like a clown and made the proceedings into a circus.
After the ruling (during which he broke down crying) he came up to me, tried to hug me, and told me, “I did the best I could.” I was furious, and remembered that he had talked about his six-year old daughter in court. I told him, “Look at my face. I want you to remember my face because one day your daughter is going to have trouble, and you’re going to need help.” I told him that when he can’t help her, he should remember my face.
I tried to help Dannielynn before I went to Florida. I thought she was going to be the next dead person. Then, after the Florida hearing, I sought access to my granddaughter, Dannielynn, in the Bahamian courts. At that point, Howard (Howard K. Stern) had custody of the baby and was involved in a bitter fight with Larry Birkhead over who was the baby’s biological father. Howard was refusing to have his DNA tested. During this period, my relationship with Larry was not antagonistic, and as I believed at that time he was the father and that he shared the goal of doing what was best for Dannielynn.
Before Vickie’s funeral in the Bahamas, a Bahamian judge ruled that I should be allowed to see my granddaughter. I was also continuing to press my claim in the Bahamas that Vickie should be buried in Texas. I went to Horizons to see her for a visit that lasted only about twenty-five minutes due to the tension between me and Howard Stern.
When I went to touch the baby, Howard stopped me, and said that “the judge said you could see her, not touch her.” He then offered to let me hold her and kiss her if I let Vickie be buried in the Bahamas. I refused to drop my legal action, and left the house without ever touching Dannielynn. During the visit, my former attorney, Debra Rose, and the babysitter, Gibson, got into a screaming fight and Dannielynn never moved.
During that trip, I met with Larry Birkhead at the Hilton Hotel. I told him that I believed in him, that he seemed like a good, decent guy; that I believed at the time that he was the baby’s father, and that I would help him in any way I could against Howard. Larry appeared to be so nervous and desperate. It didn’t make sense that Larry seemed to be now listening to Howard. I asked him what Howard had on him. Larry told me that Howard had so much “stuff” on him, and I asked what kind of “stuff”, He said “that they were fixing to tell all about him, that they say they caught him dating men.” I told him, “I don’t care if you have men or women in your life. I don’t care if you were caught fucking a sheep. If you are the baby’s daddy, and I believe you are at this time, it doesn’t matter what they say, I will stand by you, son, one hundred percent.” He said he was tired, and he just wanted to take his daughter and go home.
On the day of Vickie’s funeral in the Bahamas, I got caught in a traffic jam and arrived to the funeral late. When I got out of my car, there was a large crowd of people, all booing and jeering at me. It was the worst feeling in the world. But I knew my daughter was supporting me, even if no one else was. My feet felt like they weighed fifty pounds, and the walk into the church felt like it was a mile long.
At the funeral in the church, Howard would not let my son be one of the pallbearers, and refused to let me put out any of my family photographs. At the grave site, Mr. Birkhead and Mr. Stern’s so-called friends and pallbearers placed their flowers on the casket. After everyone else had put roses on the coffin, and they were lowering the coffin, I threw a 8×10 picture of me and Vickie onto her coffin. I waited until the casket was low enough so that no one could remove the picture without crawling into the hole, then I threw the picture on top of her casket. Everyone put a shovel of dirt on the casket. I was the last one, so I filled the entire grave with all the dirt. I remember thinking to myself, “I brought you into this world, and I’m going to be the last to send you out.” I shoveled a lot of dirt, quickly, onto the coffin, so that no one could take the photo out. I’m still glad that I did.
I saw Larry Birkhead only three times outside the court house. After Larry left the Bahamas, his attitude toward me changed.
Howard had put Larry through a costly legal battle, had not let Larry see his daughter for months, and then abruptly dropped all challenges to Larry having custody. After that, Larry completely cut me out. Howard then supported Larry getting sole custody. I was furious, and I wanted to know why Howard had suddenly become Larry’s biggest supporter. I asked Larry what was going on, what deal was he working, and why Howard was suddenly helping him. Larry denied it, told me that he wasn’t doing anything, that Howard was just being nice. But Larry was obviously nervous and couldn’t look me in the eye while he talked to me.
I believed he had cut a deal with Howard. I filed paperwork asking to be named Dannielynn’s guardian. All I ever cared about is the safety and well being of my granddaughter. I was very angry at Larry for being in cahoots with Howard, but I tried to stay optimistic when I spoke to the press. I said that I looked forward to working with Larry to help raise Dannielynn, and do what’s best for her.
I don’t believe that Larry has shown that he’s responsible enough to manage Dannielynn’s affairs with Howard by his side.
After Larry got sole custody, I urged him to put the millions of dollars he was receiving through media deals into a trust for the baby, and have an independent company monitor it. I told Larry that he can live on it, but he should not squander it. After I told him that, he called me to threaten me that if I didn’t drop the guardianship suit in the Bahamas, he’ll make sure the court fines me and that I will have to pay for his legal fees and flights to and from the Bahamas.
I wish all the money tied to Vickie’s late husband was gone. I think the money is tainted for any greedy person who grabs it.
J. Howard Marshall is dead. My grandson Daniel is dead, my daughter is dead, Pierce Marshall is dead. If Dannielynn ever gets this money, it should be put in trust until she is 25 years of age. The prospect of the money has brought my family nothing but grief. I think about Ron Goldman’s family and the O.J. Simpson case all the time. I see how much pain they are still going through and that’s what my life has become.
*Thanks so much to “Sizzles” for sharing this document.
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She didn’t ‘know’ Daniel…seems nobody did.
If only Daniel had known himself more, or thought more to have faith in himself…it’s all ’bout…’he’s us’…that baby inside.
To mourn those…pity seems a waste of time…but naught!!!
Reminds me of a song and a dance called ‘The Twist.’
Some spin and reel…
Go Fish!!!
You know…I don’t know all the circumstances but I do know that in families, word and news has a way of traveling. There might have even been contact and news that we have not heard about yet. If the Harris County case goes to trial I suspect we will see more information. The parts that are posted are just that. Parts. Her complete declaration is not available.
‘The Belt’ never works…”Just” makes things worse…reminds me of war…
Seems other than ‘de-ployment’…that’s not really working either…ain’t no good job.
But still believe that ‘A Mother’s’ hand is not near so hard…yet the ‘tool’ she tries to use without knowing could be.
Education is key…although takes lots and lots and lots of some sorted ‘dollars’ …in Xchange.
Watched “Driving Miss Daisy” again last night…what a wonderful movie.
“Like a lot of Texas parents during this period, I whipped Vickie’s butt a few times, when she had earned it. ”
Babies haven’t, most often ‘times’…have had the time to ‘earn it’…yet.
And it’s not all about TEXAS!!!
It’s every place on this tiny blue sea of planet.
All that money can buy…
Virgie sure did seem happy once-upon-a-time selling her daughter to Marshall, then Hef then Stern…
Just for a bunch of ‘birthday suites’…and today seems “Sailing Sway.”
Definitely…devine…reminds me of making candy.
But for seems ‘pure porn’ sells more.
Just ‘a link’ to the brain…and nerve cells.
What a pity….
Glad Stern…reminds me of some vampire…that knows hearts’ score
Would like to know his Mother more and how to fly jets, too.
Except for all that gas.
Reminds me of a song….it’s classical.
I’m sure all she ever wanted was someone to take ‘care’ of her.
And so on, and so forth.
Knight mare!!!
Wow, what a read…it’s really good to hear her side and finally can put the mocking of her shoveling the dirt to rest.
In regards to the belt ,many parents used it back them, it is just the way it was.
It really appears the mother/grandmothers instincts are on target with Larry needing to sell assets. It is really amazing after all he has said about Howard they are now close and gives credibility to VA statement Howard has so much “stuff” on him.
I believe she did know Daniel and you know what else I suspect is her love was not selfish.
I am as usual in complete opposition….incomplete?
Still sorrowfully so full of whao!!!
I’m crossing my legs. and everything else!!!
Was an interesting adventure riding horseback to some Shamon (sp?)…’bout Autism and such.
And how on earth does it cost so much for them ‘to air’…seems some Monopoly.
As usual…
Par for the course, and government just equals big business…
It’s rather like some abstract…just too, easy to understand.
Just keep on Truckin’…
Not knowing where we’ll all end up.
None to the wizard.
LOL
What a powerful statement when shown unbroken like that. There are a few more interesting things under that case, but it will be a couple of weeks before I can get them.
Of course, there will be some who think it’s lip service only. However, like Seidlin, need to look into her eyes, and the depth of her pain and helplessness float there amid the tears that never completely go away.
Mary, I got the belt from my mom too. My eldest got the belt from her Dad. He told her once to go get one and she came back with a flimsy cloth one…LOL!
Carole, thanks again for unearthing that document. It was such good timing. God works in mysterious ways…
I didn’t get the belt, I got switches.
Freida, “sold her daughter”? What a terrible thing to say. Although there is actual evidence that someone else was kept in shoes and later much more by selling her and helping to keep her ALL DRUGGED UP. Now a baby is being “SOLD”. Just who is doing that? I can guarantee you that its not Virgie.
Nice to know that guarantee….
‘cept I know the truth…and I think…and Virgie seems the story of “Old Mother Hubbard.”
Can’t point no finger though…just that we know how to prevent pregnancy and have for decades.
Seems a whole ‘race’ was on just to prove themselves more popular even…then didn’t care less than for what?
No one seems to care much for ‘the dot.’
Yet, again for some space…we all need and want exactly the same thing.
A brand new, little baby girl is born every day with how many seconds with how many eggs?
Countless…and a man with how how many sperm and that constant biological urge to replenish?
Then what after math…and what ova (latin)…and not even learning one language before we could understand the next…
Power of text?
Idealist, you betcha!!!
And don’t you know that I think Hef tried to make ‘sex’ a more respectable thing…
No perfect body…no perfect sale.
Seems or looks like Vickie had an easy life, got whooped!!!
Reminds me of my parents watching “He-Haw”…and I had no idea.
QV~~The breakdown you did, all I can say is WOW, what a good job you did. Sizzles, thanks for sharing all of that. And I agree I’m sure there is a whole lot more.
(This is for Freida) Non responsive!
(=^.^=)
For sure Virgie did not plaster pictures and publish pictures of that great bod….
Yet, Hef will get the final pleasure in knowing what he done and didn’t…
But Lord know he ain’t alone in all of the ‘craft.’
But, Hef not unlike Medical Mary Jane…seem to have special links.
I still like Stern…though just some Ideal.
Who knows but that lovely LaDee and Herson…might have learned that box full of strings with hammers and how to paint…
Yet all that pours….and I’d tell you nobody is truly yours.
She got sold and published.
And she was sold and published by whom?
Same old story…getting played down.
We-ak….form an opinion and never react…
Alll those years and all those babies, and getting ‘pinnned’….and
Just a grandma…has no need to hold no more babies…no more seed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJDNSp1QJA
I have no idea what end is up yet Hope that little girl gets lessons…
Although that ‘etiquette’ seems not all-to-nice on that Titatic that sank….actually more proper spelled…Ti-Tank-ic…
J.P. Morgan scheduled for that ‘ride’ got warned.
Thanks Tiny. :-)
I remember when my son was young my southern family talking about a switch and that was not so long ago.
I also remember they thought my son was spoiled because I wouldn’t let them paddle him in school.
LOL, smart daughter QV!
Freida, how do you figure VA sold her daughter? She tried to get her help and made her stop stripping. Man, when I read what she said to that judge it just broke my heart knowing the pain of not being able to help a love one.
OMG!
Whoa!!! Part of Rose settlement agreement.
“Turner will provide an Affidavit authenticating the CD with audio taped conversations that occured on March 19th and March 20th between Wilma Vice and Turner, the CD and affidavit authenticating the CD will be filed under seal in the Florida Case of Stern vs O’Quinn and will be filed under seal or an agreed Protective Order in any other fourm that the plaintiff choose or needs to file copies of said CD and Affidavit by Turner.. The affidavit will state that Neil C.McCabe was not the person who told Turner about the settlement. If Turner fails to produce a copy of said Affidavit no later by fax and showing the original has been sent to Plaintiff no later than 5PM on July 1, 2009 then this settlement agreement is null and void.”
Hi QV….what document is that on? Is it posted here or on Topix?
Anonymous,
It is on the Harris County website. So far no one has posted a link to the document from anywhere else.
You have to sign in to read it on the Harris County website, but it is free.
Oh I forgot to say it is Exhibit E to Defendant Art Harris’s Response, Objection, and Motion to Strike Defendant Nelda Turners Motion for Leave to Designate Art Harris and Busystreet Productions, LLC as Responsible Third Parties.
Can someone post it here?
Here is the link to the Exhibit E on the Harris County Website, but you must be registered and signed in to read it.
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/eDocs/Public/ViewFilePage.aspx?ViewAsType=PDF&TodaysDate=5/14/2010&PublicImageNbr=45308488&CourtID=080
I am really happy Rose is finally coming forward with the full truth and pray she realizes what she is doing is correct and hope she comes to realize what they did to her was pretty darn creepy. If she looked like a creep while under bad influence it is something she we have to ask for forgiveness but realize it happens to all of us one time or another in life and take the lessons meant to be learned.
Oh, about the phone conversation being recorded…good for her and glad she was smart enough not to let them get her LOL
To see the documents on this case from Harris County you go here:
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/edocs/public/NewUserAcknowledgement.aspx
You have to register. But like SheStone said, its free. The place to register is at the top of the page.
After you register go here.
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/edocs/public/Search.aspx
And input the case number which is 200824181
There will be a popup window. It will ask for your username and password after you click on the “Documents” tab.
And SheStone typed out the exact title of the document above.
Hi Karissa!
Ok, forget all that stuff above…
Carole got the documents to share. Thank you Carole!
From Sizzles on Topix
“Here are a few documents I got this morning from Harris County”
Partially Agreed Motion for Continuance
http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/NotSubExhB.pdf
Harris Response to Turner’s Motion for Leave to Add Responsible Third Party
http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/AHResp3dPty.pdf
Nelda’s Settlement Agreement
http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/ExhERTSettle.pdf
QV,
The link for ‘Rose’s – Nelda’s settlement doesn’t work. Looks like one too many w’s in the www.
Here is a link that works:
http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/ExhERTSettle.pdf
Thank you SheStone. Its working now. =)
Mary,
Huh? Are you forgetting what she has said and done to you and others or was that all for show??
But, QV…Howard wasn’t in charge of some child ‘in law’ anyway.
Ever try to touch a star?
EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF REPLY MEMO OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT OF SPECIAL MOTION AND SPECIAL MOTIONTO STRIKE PLAINTIFFS COMPLAINT; ETC.
This is that 310 page document that Carole mentioned. It has the full declaration of Virgie and also Speer and Cosby. Lots of transcripts too.
http://qvsplace.com/Stern_vs_Speer_Hatten_Evidence.pdf
I’m so tickled that you got it and I’m going to read it now. All these things tie back to two things….the deaths of Daniel and of Anna. Lest we forget, Howard is running scared.
Aside from Virgie’s declaration, I found Mark Speer’s declaration VERY interesting! Birkhead is a low life lying scumbag.
He is!!! Astounding! Just like his “sworn statement” where he “swears” the nannies were paid $5000. I think that is in the Rita case. I could be mistaken.
You know QV, what I don’t understand is how he is able to go on all these talk shows and no one ever challenges him! It’s infuriating!
I would have loved to see Meredith Viera pull out a document from a few of these court cases and call him out on his lies/contradictions. What happened to real reporting?
Yes, it angers me too. I don’t care if he says that all the things he said in the past were because he was trying to get “his” daughter. That still makes him a liar. Also since the subject matter was so important back then, I don’t think he was lying. Well, we all know he was not lying then. He lies now. And you are right so correct. These news outlets let him get away with it and its disgusting. I’m working on getting those early statements of his together and will be posting those too. I wanted Virgie’s story to be on top for the weekend.
I agree…he wasn’t lying then. He’s lying now. That’s soooo obvious.
Looking forward to re-reading all Birkhead’s lies in an article but wish Virgie Arthur’s could stay on top. He gets enough headlines while she is always forgotten in this sad situation. It was her family.
Wowie! Found this while surfing… I don’t understand if he is gay why he doesn’t just come out. I mean no one cares. But people don’t like liars.
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Anna Nicole’s Baby Daddy
« on: May 14, 2010, 01:17:33 am »
I saw Larry Birkhead on “The Today Show” this morning. He always disgusts me everytime I see him. I thought I’d share something with you guys.
Larry is from here in Louisville. I worked at the NBC affiliate here in Louisville. I met a gay anchor who helped me get the job. Larry worked at the station for a while, too. He was also dating this male anchor. Larry has always tried to get close to well-known people to benefit himself. He started out with dating the news anchor. They both invited me into having group sex with them. I had them over for dinner one night. They took a sex tape I had made with my partner. They said it was just a mistake and meant to borrow a regular porn from my apt. They told others at the station about it. I remember sitting off-camera from this female anchor I was friends with. She was doing local updates during the Olympics (was an Olympics year). I was so embarrassed when she asked me about it. The mics are still open and everyone in the control room can hear. I forgot about that as I told her.
Larry eventually saw me as a threat, because his anchor bf flirted with me. He would give me very evil looks. Larry met Anna Nicole at a Derby party and left to go off with her. He knew about all the millions she was suppose to have gotten from the dead, rich husband. Anna knew he was gay or bi-sexual. I actually remembering him saying he didn’t like women at all. One of the docs who is now in trouble for prescribing meds was gay. They were all messing around.
Anyway, this all led to my departure from the station. There were daily rumors and mocking of the anchor, Larry, and me. People were saying I got the job by sleeping with Derrick–the anchor. I didn’t get the job that way. Derrick began making sexual motions to me during live newscasts–during commercials, etc. It all led to me having to leave the station. Derrick eventually got fired for a sex tape he did that came to light.
When the whole baby daddy thing was going strong, I got a call from a tabloid magazine wanting to buy my story. I declined. I didn’t feel it was my place to out Larry. I didn’t really see what that mattered. What mattered was how he pursued people who could benefit him financially–but I still didn’t think it was my business. Another guy sold his story about his relationship with Larry. So, I don’t think I’m outing him now. I think it is pretty obvious at this point.
Below is his interview on “The Today Show” this morning. He is now selling Anna’s stuff to get money, since the courts ruled the estate isn’t getting that old man’s money. After seeing him today, I just felt like sharing who he is and my experience with him. People I know who know him say he barely spends time with his daughter–only for the cameras. That is rumor, since I can’t speak to that first hand.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37126449#37126449
If true….WOW!
I remember the gay anchor story. Wonder if anybody else will be coming forward. So Larry intentionally met Anna because he knew about the Marshall money. Getting her pregnant was his insurance policy and his way into the “dream” fortune. I don’t think for one minute he ever really wanted to raise DL. I’ve always said it would be interesting to see what would happen if no Marshall money came through. I truly worry about that poor little girl.
I tend to believe this for obvious reasons. You really do need to come forward about it though. Just don’t do it through TMZ or Entertainment Tonight.
If we worry about her can you imagine the worry Anna’s mom is having???
I agree. This person pretty well identified himself by his position with the station. He needs to step forward, especially to Rita Cosby as it discusses his involvement with “another” sex tape. I don’t think Larry has fooled anyone but himself about his ambitions.
Maybe this was what Larry was so afraid Stern would expose.
As time goes by, I hope more and more people will be coming forward. There are probably many others. I bet there is much to be exposed. Yep!
Carole, the “tape” he said is of him and a former partner not Larry. Why would Rita be interested in a tape of some unidentified man and his partner? Rita’s case is over and she is probably never wanting to hear of those losers names again.
At first, I thought his post sounded like another’s “ramblings and made up” stuff.
Ya’ never know with that one IYKWIM.
To Anon, I know the tape was of the other man and his partner. But the fact that Larry took it, probably to look at, just shows that he would not necessarily be shy about being taped with someone. It makes the statement that Anna looked at a tape allegedly of Howie and Larry just a tad more credible. IMO
Arthur’s response to HKS motion to quash and for protective order.
http://qvsplace.com/051710_Arthur_vs_Stern_etal_Response_to_HKS_Quash_Depo.pdf
“Deep Throat”…
wonder how many clapped?
Get it?
Tried so hard to keep this a respectable QV place…
Still some chance we could learn more BIO 101 and PSYCH…
I’m a tad bit old-fashioned and still believe this is the same old world going round and round and around.
And Virgie, had a lot of children and not so many that donated their sperm have stood up to that plate.
But pretty awful…
All the same…each and every one of us bearing no shame….
I’m not buying exotic herbs imported for the tariffs to yet furthermore the cooks’ inspiration…no great spice nor herb is neeeded….
Most just say “Charge Ir” and have no idea the consequence.
May God Bless Sterns and that ‘little oil stove’…that keeps a camp fire bright…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYV-JSjpyU
Looks like the court set new dates for Sterns Special Appearance hearing and motion to quash.
06/04/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A) RE-SET
06/18/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET QUASH DEPOSITIONS – MOTION TO (TRCP 186B)
06/18/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A)
From TMZ…
Howard K. Stern Allegedly Threatens ‘Witness’
Originally posted 30 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
Howard K. Stern has been accused of threatening a man whom South Carolina police call a “witness” in the Anna Nicole Smith drug trial … this according to a police report obtained by TMZ.
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According to the report, Mark Hatten — Anna’s ex-boyfriend — told the Greeleyville Police Department he received a “threatening” message from Stern on May 3 via MySpace.
In the report, it says Hatten opened up Stern’s alleged MySpace message on one of the officer’s laptops, which read: “You are in over your head. You are being watched. Keep a look out before everything comes crashing down, do you understand me?”
We cannot confirm if Hatten will be a witness in the Anna Nicole-related case involving Stern, but Greeleyville cops are calling the investigation, “Intimidation of a witness/harrassment via Internet.”
Stern scoffs at Hatten’s allegation, telling TMZ, “Don’t you have to have a MySpace account in order to leave a message? I’ve wouldn’t even know how to leave a message on MySpace.”
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We’re told the GPD is still investigating — but it’s a tiny department in a 400 person town, so ….
If true, Stern could be charged with tampering with a witness.
Calls to Stern have not been returned.
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Why do they say calls have not been returned from Stern when they quote him?
Link to the MySpace in question.
http://www.myspace.com/howardkevinstern
Now Mark’s not a bad loooker”’…he know’s it but if only he had a brain or got some education…perhaps a degree in ‘sports’…you know some sort of coach.
Never let loose, yet hope some greater faith might pre-vail in the face of all media and outlets…
lll
You know if you just ‘sit down’ and give a second of time of your time and give them little babies more fame than banks….no one would ever learn how to count and save.
This is a ‘happy habut…halibut…hal
freida
he looks bad, he is U – G – L- Y !
LOL! Now ladies. We all have our own personal preferences :-)
Stern is lying about that MySpace. It was up before Anna Nicole died. After she died, I saw it and he had accessed it shortly before they flew to Florida but then it went unused for months and then I stopped looking. Its the same one and the only one that is on Big Moe’s to this day. It didn’t used to be private either and now it is. As far as it being him who wrote to Hatten, the police will have to see if someone hacked into it or not….
Dang, for the most part..Virgie has a better dream that for the most part.
Seems she was a pretty babe…
For certain…loud and clear….those ‘looke’s can carry you afar…from those saddle-bags of books to the ‘real value’ of what your property is woth…
Seems nobody knows these daize!!!
New on the Harris County website. Once again the Special Appearance hearing has been moved, as well as the Motion to Quash hearing.
Under Settings:
6/04/2010 02:30 PM 080 Law Day Docket SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A) Re-Set PER JUDGE TO 6/18/10
6/18/2010 03:30 PM 080 Law Day Docket QUASH DEPOSITIONS – MOTION TO (TRCP 186B) Re-Set JENELLE VIARS 5/20/10
6/18/2010 03:30 PM 080 Law Day Docket SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A) Re-Set PER JENELL VYARS 5/20/10
8/06/2010 02:30 PM 080 Law Day Docket QUASH DEPOSITIONS – MOTION TO (TRCP 186B)
8/06/2010 02:30 PM 080 Law Day Docket SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A)
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Interesting.
JMO
Thank you. Plenty of time for the judge to force HKS to do his depo like he promised. And they had the nerve to say that Arthur is the one holding things up. That’s just crazy!
I hope the Judge does go ahead and move on the issue of the deposition prior to the 8/6/2010 date.
HKS should at the very least do a deposition on the jurisdictional issues prior to the hearing on his special appearance.
JMO
These were filed today.
Art Harris sur-reply to defendant Nelda Rose Turner’s motion for leave to designate responsible third party which is Art Harris company BusyStreet Productions.
http://www.qvsplace.com/052110_Arthur_vs_Stern_Arthur_Response_to_Surreply_Harris_to_Turner.pdf
Virgie Arthur reply to Art Harris sur-reply to Turner’s motion for leave to designate responsible third parties. :-)
http://www.qvsplace.com/052110_Arthur_vs_Stern_Harris_Surreply_to_Turner_re_Third_Party_Designation.pdf
06/18/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET QUASH DEPOSITIONS – MOTION TO (TRCP 186B) RE-SET 06/18/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A) RE-SET
08/06/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET QUASH DEPOSITIONS – MOTION TO (TRCP 186B) 08/06/2010 LAW DAY DOCKET SPECIAL APPEARANCE (TRCP 120A) x
With limited ‘finance’ or resource…
“Daniel lived with me until he was six years old. During Daniel’s young years, until he was about six years old, he lived with me, and I raised him.”
Raised?
Look up ‘corporal’…see the heartache…and gosh…let’s give Larry a little credit for what he begot…”love”…well, of course….got all snuggly and wound up with ‘That Kid.’
For the benefit of the doubt.
We all know by now the truth…Vickie was a ‘pretty baby girl’ got mapped for all her lovely creature features…never, ever land took her and her son some wild ride.
Reminds me of flutes.
I just think ‘music’ is smarter than than…and web producers…
To know hurt…for sure there’s only one plate serving out dinner…
She’s a goddess…and she is the wind…
One tiny planet…and man is digging her for everything from gold to fame.
Hi everyone,
I am trying to find out what Wood said about Rose that was positive. What filing is she talking about?
If anyone can help…appreciate ya!
So Wood didn’t write the motion and someone is getting desperate? OMG, that’s weird.
Hi Mary, I don’t know what document you refer to. Ive been under the weather and have not read all the docs but here is a link to the latest. http://www.topix.net/forum/who/anna-nicole-smith/TNNF2IJO92TRRBVMH/p173#c3758
Get Well!
(reminds me of that leak in the gulf)
Seems our government is throwing a lot of money ‘at it’ at least.
We need a ‘Human Animal Rescue Site.’
Thanks Freida. Isn’t that just horrible? I got the nerve up to finally look at it yesterday. What a tragedy. :-(
Good reason to “Go Green,” I guess…quite an incentive, for safer ‘energies.’
By the way, Virgie did the best she knew how.
And put Mark Hatten (sp?) in a suit and tie…teach him a little etiquette…
and, and, and.
This is Arthur’s reply to Harris response in Re: Art Harris
http://qvsplace.com/052610_In_re_Harris_Arthur_Reply_Harris_Response.pdf
LOL@ suit and tie. For some reason, I don’t think that is going to happen.
Arthur reply to Harris response to Turner designation of third parties.
http://qvsplace.com/060110_Arthur_vs_Stern_Pltf_Reply_Harris_Response_Objection_Turner_Motion.pdf
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